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Old 06-13-2006, 06:00 AM
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AROUND THE AL Chisox's Contreras bewilders Rangers
Houston Chronicle, United States - 5 hours ago
ARLINGTON - Jose Contreras was downright nasty. His splitter was diving, his slider was breaking and the Texas Rangers were swinging and missing. ...
Chicago's Contreras Shuts Down Rangers Houston Chronicle
Contreras rolls; White Sox top Rangers TSN.ca
Contreras wins 15th straight decision as Sox top Rangers Dekalb Daily Chronicle
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Old 06-13-2006, 07:28 AM
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The Texas Rangers just couldn't find an answer for Jose Contreras of the White Sox. Contreras won his 15th straight decision in an 8-3 win, and he completely dominated the Ranger hitters. As this article says, "Contreras (7-0)... threw 75 of his 108 pitches for strikes over eight innings. The righthander allowed three runs and six hits, with the AL West-leading Rangers scoring all their runs in a four-batter span in the fifth." Can the Rangers rebound from this loss?
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The Texas Rangers just couldn't find an answer for Jose Contreras of the White Sox. Contreras won his 15th straight decision in an 8-3 win, and he completely dominated the Ranger hitters. As this article says, "Contreras (7-0)... threw 75 of his 108 pitches for strikes over eight innings. The righthander allowed three runs and six hits, with the AL West-leading Rangers scoring all their runs in a four-batter span in the fifth." Can the Rangers rebound from this loss?
Wow, 15 straight for my fellow country man of sort...Why did the Yankees let this guy go?
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The Yankees traded Jose Contreras to the Chicago White Sox in 2004 for a pitcher named, "Esteban Loaiza". The Yankees claimed that Contreras was inconsistent with his pitching, and somehow seemed to pitch worse from the bullpen. He did horrible in the 2003 post-season achieving a ghastly ERA close to 6.

The Yankees thought that Loaiza would do a better job. Now thinking about it, did the Yankees make the right decision?
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The Yankees traded Jose Contreras to the Chicago White Sox in 2004 for a pitcher named, "Esteban Loaiza". The Yankees claimed that Contreras was inconsistent with his pitching, and somehow seemed to pitch worse from the bullpen. He did horrible in the 2003 post-season achieving a ghastly ERA close to 6.

The Yankees thought that Loaiza would do a better job. Now thinking about it, did the Yankees make the right decision?
Anyone who had followed Loaiza could see he was a "one hit wonder"...
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Re: No answer for Contreras

I haven't really tracked Esteban Loaiza's starts over the years, but I am aware of his statistics. He had a stunning year in 2003 with the Chicago White Sox, but otherwise Loaiza didn't have any other spectacular season.

I guess you can call him a "one hit wonder", Gotham Dark Knight.

At least we all know that Jose Contreras will finish with (probably) more wins than he had last year [15]. In nearly four years, he has turned into one of baseball's top aces. Do you think he walk away at the end of the season with the AL Cy Young in his hands though?
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Re: No answer for Contreras

The Yankees basically stole Contreras away from the Boston Red Sox.

Anyone else remember when the Yankees signed Contreras?

It is a vague memory but if I remember correctly.

The Red Sox thought he was all signed and theirs.

I believe Cashman was at the hotel and offered Contreras more money and signed him on the spot.

I don't remember it all correctly but there is a story behind it.

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Contreras was terrible for the Yankees. At the time he was dealt, it looked like he was never goanna develop so I can't kill Cashman on that deal. Contrereras may be one of those guys who can play anywhere except NY. Kenny Rogers is another one. Javier Vasquez also.
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Re: No answer for Contreras

I am sorry, Racquetball, but I do not remember the story. All I know is that Jose Contreras was signed by the Yankees in 2003 as a free-agent.

That does sound like an interesting story, though. It is highly-possible to say that there may have been a scenario similar to that one you mentioned.

ThePundit, there are many baseball stars who never adjusted to the New York community. Vazquez did amazing well, before he wore the pinstripes. Contreras had some solid seasons, but lacked consistency.

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