[Bette]

Originally Posted by bears9

Ok, the penalties hurt the Titans, but no CJ was the difference Bette, Lendale White can't fumble if Chris Johnson has the ball, Kerry Collins doesn't have the ball in his hands as much if Lendale White isn't such a non-factor without CJ, there for he can't make mistakes. So I think CJ was the difference

I dont remember Kerry Collins making that many mistakes bears. I dont remember White fumbling, only that he didnt get many yards. And I am not sure how CJ could prevent the rest of the team from screwing up when he didnt have the ball. Or even if he did. A penalty on his team's part could bring the ball all the way back.

Originally Posted by titans#1

o.k. you got me on the lucky part but my point was that people are giving the ravens to much credit for our mistakes

No titans#1, what we are saying here is that the Titans beat themselves all on their own. I dont call that luck for the Ravens, I call that self destruction by the Titans.

[bears9]

Originally Posted by Bette

I dont remember Kerry Collins making that many mistakes bears. I dont remember White fumbling, only that he didnt get many yards. And I am not sure how CJ could prevent the rest of the team from screwing up when he didnt have the ball. Or even if he did. A penalty on his team's part could bring the ball all the way back.



No titans#1, what we are saying here is that the Titans beat themselves all on their own. I dont call that luck for the Ravens, I call that self destruction by the Titans.

Didn't Collins have a fumble towards the end of the game? Any way CJ had 70 in the first half he would've sky rocketed past 100 yards, I'm almost postive with CJ they make one more score and that would've been enough

[titans#1]

Originally Posted by bears9

Didn't Collins have a fumble towards the end of the game? Any way CJ had 70 in the first half he would've sky rocketed past 100 yards, I'm almost postive with CJ they make one more score and that would've been enough

i agree the titans would have won easily if cj stayed in the game

[titans#1]

Originally Posted by Bette

I dont remember Kerry Collins making that many mistakes bears. I dont remember White fumbling, only that he didnt get many yards. And I am not sure how CJ could prevent the rest of the team from screwing up when he didnt have the ball. Or even if he did. A penalty on his team's part could bring the ball all the way back.



No titans#1, what we are saying here is that the Titans beat themselves all on their own. I dont call that luck for the Ravens, I call that self destruction by the Titans.

once again you guys got me on the lucky part,but if you put it the way you did than the titans did beat them selvs but the ravens didnt do anything to cause any of our mistakes,all of the titans mistakes were mental mistakes and if the titans self destructed than the ravens did get lucky because if we didnt self destruct like you said we did than the titans would have won

[GoBears51]

OMG, You folks still talking smack after the Titans lost Fair and Square.

CJ retiring Early in the game, the 2 Fumble, the Missed FG, Delay of game, This and that, that the Ravens got lucky with the Titans commiting all those Penaltys Blah Blah Blah.
That the Titans would of won if CJ didn't get sideline.

I simply hear Crying from you folks.

What about Terrell Suggs from Ravens Defense and a few others had to retired early in the game.

If Suggs didn't got sideline, Collins would of got sacked left and right, and Lendale white would of gotten nowhere, and Ed Reed would of pick-off collins past left and right like he did against the Dolphins.

They shouldn't never step on that terribel towel.

Titans Deserve No Respect, and thats Final.

How i see it is "Justice is Served".

[alex83]

well for those with a basic knowledge i'll address you as opposed to those clearly lacking it...the Titans have gone from only just making the Wild Card last year to being 'statistically' the best team in the NFL, do they deserve respect now? yes of course, the better question is why would they not?

For people to make suggestions that the Titans deserve no respect because of the terrible towel insident is ridiculous simply because ever at 10-0 which was way before that, the Titans had no respect even then.

As for the game, we did lose, thats plain and simple but the Titans didn't lose because the Ravens were better, they lost becuase of minor errors and i really don't see how someone can make the claim that Ed Reed would have picked off Collins more if Suggs had been on the field because he didn't do it the entire time Suggs was on the field anyway...thats like saying "if we had CJ he would have run for 400 yards, caught 50 balls, made 7 passes and kicked 16 field goals"

The Titans lost because:
We lost CJ
Bironas missed a field goal in a tough position (distance and wind)
LenDale and Crumpler made stupid fumbles
and we caused to many penalties

case closed

[Bette]

Originally Posted by GoBears51

OMG, You folks still talking smack after the Titans lost Fair and Square.

CJ retiring Early in the game, the 2 Fumble, the Missed FG, Delay of game, This and that, that the Ravens got lucky with the Titans commiting all those Penaltys Blah Blah Blah.
That the Titans would of won if CJ didn't get sideline.

I simply hear Crying from you folks.

What about Terrell Suggs from Ravens Defense and a few others had to retired early in the game.

If Suggs didn't got sideline, Collins would of got sacked left and right, and Lendale white would of gotten nowhere, and Ed Reed would of pick-off collins past left and right like he did against the Dolphins.

They shouldn't never step on that terribel towel.

Titans Deserve No Respect, and thats Final.

How i see it is "Justice is Served".

Sorry GoBears but crying and talking smack are two diff things in my book.
But then again at least Titans fans are still talking this late in the season. Unlike the Bears(and Cowboys)

Maybe you are right. Maybe stepping on the towel jinxed them.

No. 1 seed in the AFC, best win loss record in NFL for 2008, did it with an aging qb, outstanding rookie Chris Johnson, one of the best head coaches in the NFL,-- probably no respect deserved here.
They lost the football game, nothing to do with justice. End of story.

[GoBears51]

Originally Posted by Bette

Sorry GoBears but crying and talking smack are two diff things in my book.
But then again at least Titans fans are still talking this late in the season. Unlike the Bears(and Cowboys) .

Yeah you could look at it that way, that's all you could do Now is talk about what a good record the Titans had, this and that, but for the Titans as being a better team than the whole league is an overstatement.

I look at it this way.
I rather have my team (The Bears) have a OK record like 8-8 or 10-6 and not make the Playoffs then have a GOOD record like 14-2 or 13-3 around there make the Playoffs and lose in the Divisional Round, it just shows me that the team can't get it done.

Look at the Chargers, they made the playoffs the last few years but can't get to the Superbowl.

How about the Patriots with their Perfect Season Record, made it to the Superbowl and loss. What a Big Dissapointment.

But then again I looked at the Bills and them making it to the Superbowl 4 times (in the Past), I give them alot of credit.
Getting there 1st time is hard enough, doing a repeat is even harder, but 4 times in a row thats amazing.

[titans#1]

Originally Posted by GoBears51

OMG, You folks still talking smack after the Titans lost Fair and Square.

CJ retiring Early in the game, the 2 Fumble, the Missed FG, Delay of game, This and that, that the Ravens got lucky with the Titans commiting all those Penaltys Blah Blah Blah.
That the Titans would of won if CJ didn't get sideline.

I simply hear Crying from you folks.

What about Terrell Suggs from Ravens Defense and a few others had to retired early in the game.

If Suggs didn't got sideline, Collins would of got sacked left and right, and Lendale white would of gotten nowhere, and Ed Reed would of pick-off collins past left and right like he did against the Dolphins.

They shouldn't never step on that terribel towel.

Titans Deserve No Respect, and thats Final.

How i see it is "Justice is Served".

o.k. heres the thing,t.suggs and cj were on the field at the same time and what did cj do? well he got 100 total yards b4 the first half was over with.and suggs didnt do **** he didnt gett any sacks the only int the ravens had was collins throwing off his back foot.the ravens dont deserve the win bcus they played like a horrible team but fortunatly for them the titans fumbled and missed fg's so did the better team win? no,did the better team that day win? no,but did the team who had reffs calling every damn penalty on the titans and not jack **** on the ravens win? yes,

and about you saying the titans fans wining about the game,you have to be kidding me the ravens fans were bringing up the week 5 bs all week and now we cant complain typical baltimore fans

and why are you bringing up the terrible towel crap up for? are you just mad because the sorry ravens lost to the steelers TWICE and the titans played them once and beat the crap out of them,stomped on there towels,and sent them home cryiong about it?

[alex83]

Originally Posted by GoBears51

Yeah you could look at it that way, that's all you could do Now is talk about what a good record the Titans had, this and that, but for the Titans as being a better team than the whole league is an overstatement.

I look at it this way.
I rather have my team (The Bears) have a OK record like 8-8 or 10-6 and not make the Playoffs then have a GOOD record like 14-2 or 13-3 around there make the Playoffs and lose in the Divisional Round, it just shows me that the team can't get it done.

Look at the Chargers, they made the playoffs the last few years but can't get to the Superbowl.

How about the Patriots with their Perfect Season Record, made it to the Superbowl and loss. What a Big Dissapointment.

But then again I looked at the Bills and them making it to the Superbowl 4 times (in the Past), I give them alot of credit.
Getting there 1st time is hard enough, doing a repeat is even harder, but 4 times in a row thats amazing.

Ok so let me see if im understanding you...

if a team has a great season 12-4. 13-3, 14-2 etc...they should win the Superbowl?

but if a team finishes around .500 and don't make it to the playoffs or make it to the playoffs and don't get to the Superbowl they should consider that a good season?

[Bette]

Originally Posted by GoBears51

Yeah you could look at it that way, that's all you could do Now is talk about what a good record the Titans had, this and that, but for the Titans as being a better team than the whole league is an overstatement.Didnt say they were the best in the league. Said they were the no 1 seed in the AFC and had the best win-loss record in the league.

I look at it this way.
I rather have my team (The Bears) have a OK record like 8-8 or 10-6 and not make the Playoffs then have a GOOD record like 14-2 or 13-3 around there make the Playoffs and lose in the Divisional Round, it just shows me that the team can't get it done.

Look at the Chargers, they made the playoffs the last few years but can't get to the Superbowl.

How about the Patriots with their Perfect Season Record, made it to the Superbowl and loss. What a Big Dissapointment.

But then again I looked at the Bills and them making it to the Superbowl 4 times (in the Past), I give them alot of credit.
Getting there 1st time is hard enough, doing a repeat is even harder, but 4 times in a row thats amazing.

Having trouble following the rest of your reasoning. Did you say it was better to go 4 times and lose (guess they couldnt get it done) than it was to go once and lose?
And you are happy with an ok record?
Guess the Bears are too since thats all they were able to handle.
What about when they got to the Super Bowl against the Colts but they couldnt get it done? How does that fit into the scheme of things according to you?
according to that, I can be really really happy that the Cowboys didnt get to the playoffs.

[Phils20]

Now that I agree with.

Best of luck to the Ravens, I had made up my mind that the winner of that game had my vote for the rest of the post season.

Best of luck to the Ravens Vs the Steelers.

[GoBears51]

Originally Posted by Bette

Having trouble following the rest of your reasoning. Did you say it was better to go 4 times and lose (guess they couldnt get it done) than it was to go once and lose?
And you are happy with an ok record?
Guess the Bears are too since thats all they were able to handle.
What about when they got to the Super Bowl against the Colts but they couldnt get it done? How does that fit into the scheme of things according to you?
according to that, I can be really really happy that the Cowboys didnt get to the playoffs.

I said I give the bills alot of credit for making it to the Superbowl 4 In a Row, but for them losing all 4 times is another story.

I give the Bears credit too, all they had was the Defense, it was Grossman that Fumble and threw those Interception, and the Colts play the game where the advantage was to tired the Bears Defense.

But for the Cowboys not making it to the Playoff with their Roster Lineup is just Ridiculous.

[Bette]

Originally Posted by GoBears51

I said I give the bills alot of credit for making it to the Superbowl 4 In a Row, but for them losing all 4 times is another story.

I give the Bears credit too, all they had was the Defense, it was Grossman that Fumble and threw those Interception, and the Colts play the game where the advantage was to tired the Bears Defense.

But for the Cowboys not making it to the Playoff with their Roster Lineup is just Ridiculous.

Well, the Cowboys went to the SuperBowl previously and got 5 rings. Does that redeem them because they didnt get very far this year? We are talking about a team with not only 5 Super Bowl rings, but 10 Conference championships, 19 Divisional Championships, and 29 Playoff appearances. So can we give them a break?

So if you have a so-so team but they dont get very far, or if only one side of the ball is talented, and they still dont get very far(Bears vs. Colts) thats ok? They get credit for the half that is good, right?

And the Colts tiring out the Bears defense in the Super Bowl, thats called football.
If you are trying to get me worked up about the Cowboys, forget it. I know they stunk this year. But that doesnt mean I am going to tear down somebody else's team. Get with the program dude.

[titans#1]

if a team finished with a winning record that is a good thing regardless if they made the playoffs or not because it gives the team confidence for the next season and it gives them alot to work from.i personally dont look at the past because that has nothing to do with future of the team.if you constantly compare your team with the teams that won the sb years ago than you will never be satisfied.and for the cowboys having alot of star players and not making the playoffs is just because the cowboys have to many selfish players on their team if they were to get rid of owens that would be the best thing for them just because he is to big of a distraction he cries more about not getting the ball than he does crying about the loses and with him gone tony romo would be able to just throw the ball without having to worry about making everybody happy and besides dont they have roy williams why dont they just get rid of t.o and they will still have one of the nfl's best wr's