[rmjvol]

So what do Titans fans think about the crazy mess surrounding Terrell Owens?

I'm thinking this had to be either a publicity stunt or just another crazy episode in the life of this guy.

Will all this crap make a difference in the Cowboys vs Titans game? Who thinks T.O. plays against the Titans this week?

[titans34]

Let's face it....T.O.'s a nut-job-drama-queen. As soon as all the attention is off him, he goes and does something stupid so we'll all feel sorry for him. That way he thinks someone still gives a crap about him and now he feels all better. As long as someone is talking about him, he's happy...as long as there's drama, he's happy. Hey T.O., you're a football player, make people talk about your skills on the field!

[MJHMarc]

He is a great football player but a bad person.

[alex83]

the problem with TO is that he is giving the game a bad name, hes so media hungry that every oppurtunity he gets he exploits it, suprisingly with 10 million camermen standing around him..."HEADLINE: T.O. PICKS UP TRASH! HE IS QUOTED AS SAYING HE HAS NOW RID THE WORLD OF GLOBAL WARMING HIMSELF JUST USING A PIECE OF STICKY TAPE AND A SLICE OF CHEESE!" everything he does he NEEDS to have splashed all over the papers, is he injured or not? who cares cos if he plays and plays well hes Superman, if he plays bad its cos of his injury and he rushed it coming back. look at the Superbowl a few years bk (Eagles/Pat) he rushed coming back from a season long injury and if anything he crippled his team cos he wasnt 100%, now hes doing the same, he wants to rush to come back for what reason exactly? hes getting payed the big bucks for not doing anything anyway, i think hes got a deal with the media, get in the spotlight as much as you can and we'll give you more money, what other explaintions could there be?

[MJHMarc]

The public follows him like Marilyn Monroe.

If the team doesn't want to pay his price he will 'dis them publically.

[El Brazo De Oro]

t.o. is my boy. but he should rest up this week. no use embarassing the titans. call it a mercy killing and move on.

[EmpireWF]

Even w/o TO, the Cowboys have plenty of weapons to exploit the Titans. The only way I see them keeping it close is if they can get tons of pressure on Bledsoe. Won't be impossible, but I don't see them doing it consistantly throughout the game.

[reflex615]

He's not a nut job. He just grew up sheltered and is now receiving attention that he didn't as a child. He enjoys this attention and feeds off of it. Usually when people like this get into somekind of mishap its due to the people they are hanging with. Sort of like peer pressure. He's not a crimal, he walks a straight line, he's probably an excellent father to his child and He's Hongrey and ready to convert on short "MS Pacman". This will be another example how the Titan's Secondary is pathetic. That's why even team doesn't fear our 2ndary. If its 3rd down they convert with a hook route to a good hands WR. Where as we have a shaky shady WR core, i.e. Drew.

[reflex615]

I hear ya brother (El Brazo De Oro) but disagree. I say go out there and show to the titans fans how pathetic the organization is. Score/Convert, Sack the QB, Score/Convert, Sack the QB, Score/Convert, Stop Run, then Sack the QB then finish this game out with another lose to the titans. We just plain suck. Fisher needs to be fired, Floyd needs to be fired, Chow needs to be fired. We probably won't ever be any count till Bud Adams passes away because he doesn't care about winning or losing, his only concern is "Am I still making money". We let go of "Prime Time" Players, Rolle, Da Freak, Mason, Mcnair even Lorenzo Neal. Then we say let pay a WR alot of money but lets don't worry about who's leading the helm we'll just sign some old veteran busta named Collins he'll play for peanuts.This is an organization where you come to to just get your feet wet in the NFL and then bounce to a better team who actually wants to win a Super Bowl and not sell tickets. A couch who is weak and not Hongrey like Brian Billick. Dem Boys "Go Cowboys!!!" Hope we go Goose Egg and 16 (0-16) tickets sales drop and more good players leave this team. I fell sorry for Keith Bulluck.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by reflex615

He's not a nut job. He just grew up sheltered and is now receiving attention that he didn't as a child. He enjoys this attention and feeds off of it. Usually when people like this get into somekind of mishap its due to the people they are hanging with. Sort of like peer pressure. He's not a crimal, he walks a straight line, he's probably an excellent father to his child and He's Hongrey and ready to convert on short "MS Pacman". This will be another example how the Titan's Secondary is pathetic. That's why even team doesn't fear our 2ndary. If its 3rd down they convert with a hook route to a good hands WR. Where as we have a shaky shady WR core, i.e. Drew.

Welcome aboard reflex615...

Couldn't agree with you more on TO...never thought him a nut job or a bad guy...just a big kid who loves attention, and when he can't get the postive kind, he will do his darnest to get the negative kind. Though, he seems a bit snake bite this past week...first the he breaks his hand, then the whole overdose thing...still one handed I think he can beat Pacman Jones.

[etodd]

If anyone would do the right thing, it would be Parcells. I think Owens does have some mental problem. You con't play a team sport as long as he has and still not get that its not all about "me". I heard a guy the other night that had the best idea for dealing with Owens, because he's demostrated this behavior before:

Parcells should have him evaluated by a psychiatrist hired by the Cowboys. "oh no, that would be more harmful" you might say. Look at it from the Cowboys perspective. If Owens is putting on a show to get attention, then questioning his mental stability medically might just end his tantrums or pleas for attention once and for all or maybe until the season is over. If he does have a problem, its the best thing for him. I've heard others say, "putting one's mental health in the spolight is not fair." Hooey. For whatever bad judgement the Cowboys exercised in signing Owens, they have made an investment in him. When his thumb was broken, they consulted a medical professional. When any other Cowboy is injured, they get a medical professional to evaluate them. Just so with T. O. Make him sit for at least a week (especially against a team he has a chance to post some big numbers and there is little danger in hurting the team) "to have him evaluated" and let's all see if he really needs all that attention.

I beleive if Parcells doesn't take some action we'll all get to see Terrell Owens own his third NFL team. Whether he plays against Tennessee will determine the rest of the Cowboys season. I think Parcells is smart enough to know it and has the stones to enforce it. But hey, I'm silly. I remember a time when it didn't matter how talented you were, you never became more important than the team.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by etodd

If anyone would do the right thing, it would be Parcells. I think Owens does have some mental problem. You con't play a team sport as long as he has and still not get that its not all about "me". I heard a guy the other night that had the best idea for dealing with Owens, because he's demostrated this behavior before:

Parcells should have him evaluated by a psychiatrist hired by the Cowboys. "oh no, that would be more harmful" you might say. Look at it from the Cowboys perspective. If Owens is putting on a show to get attention, then questioning his mental stability medically might just end his tantrums or pleas for attention once and for all or maybe until the season is over. If he does have a problem, its the best thing for him. I've heard others say, "putting one's mental health in the spolight is not fair." Hooey. For whatever bad judgement the Cowboys exercised in signing Owens, they have made an investment in him. When his thumb was broken, they consulted a medical professional. When any other Cowboy is injured, they get a medical professional to evaluate them. Just so with T. O. Make him sit for at least a week (especially against a team he has a chance to post some big numbers and there is little danger in hurting the team) "to have him evaluated" and let's all see if he really needs all that attention.

I beleive if Parcells doesn't take some action we'll all get to see Terrell Owens own his third NFL team. Whether he plays against Tennessee will determine the rest of the Cowboys season. I think Parcells is smart enough to know it and has the stones to enforce it. But hey, I'm silly. I remember a time when it didn't matter how talented you were, you never became more important than the team.

Good Presentation my friend, but since when has it really been about "the team in the NFL?"...those years are long gone...Tell me that Matt Leinhart was thinking about the team in pre-season when he partied with Paris Hilton and was holding out? Tell me Reggie Bush's mess at USC happened because he had the "team" first. We could go on and on and on.

So why single out TO?

I do not hear someone come out and say...we are banning the Media from the Cowboy practices for the good of the team.

I do not see someone speak out against the TV station that ran with the latest story before the facts are in...the Blogs that ran with it as well...

You really think this is a TO problem?...The Media made the monster...and now we do not like the monster....hmmm....kill the monster, the media will give us the next one.

TO is a junkie, and the media and fans the supplier...which should we really go after, I wonder?

[ThePundit]

Originally Posted by reflex615

I hear ya brother (El Brazo De Oro) but disagree. I say go out there and show to the titans fans how pathetic the organization is. Score/Convert, Sack the QB, Score/Convert, Sack the QB, Score/Convert, Stop Run, then Sack the QB then finish this game out with another lose to the titans. We just plain suck. Fisher needs to be fired, Floyd needs to be fired, Chow needs to be fired. We probably won't ever be any count till Bud Adams passes away because he doesn't care about winning or losing, his only concern is "Am I still making money". We let go of "Prime Time" Players, Rolle, Da Freak, Mason, Mcnair even Lorenzo Neal. Then we say let pay a WR alot of money but lets don't worry about who's leading the helm we'll just sign some old veteran busta named Collins he'll play for peanuts.This is an organization where you come to to just get your feet wet in the NFL and then bounce to a better team who actually wants to win a Super Bowl and not sell tickets. A couch who is weak and not Hongrey like Brian Billick. Dem Boys "Go Cowboys!!!" Hope we go Goose Egg and 16 (0-16) tickets sales drop and more good players leave this team. I fell sorry for Keith Bulluck.

Welcome to GoTeamsGo Reflex615. From afar, I find one of the problems with the Titans is that they are sort of in between rebuilding and competing now - it's like they can't make up their minds. On one hand , they have Vince Young and Lendale White but on the other hand, they have a bunch of veterans that really won't be worth much by the time Young matures....Guys like travis henry, Kerry Collins and Kevin Mawae...Since the Titans are not going to compete now, they should trade these guys after the season for draft picks and really rebuild.

[etodd]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

...TO is a junkie, and the media and fans the supplier...which should we really go after, I wonder?

Really? So I guess the fact that I am commenting on it makes me part of his problem. (?)

No, no, no, T.O. said, calling the saga that swirled around him Wednesday a big misunderstanding.

It appears that we can add yet another to the list of those that misunderstand TO:

1. Bill Walsh
2. San Francisco 49ers
3. San Francisco media
4. Jeff Garcia
5. Philadelphia Media
6. Philadelphia Eagles
7. Donovan McNabb
8. Andy Reid
9. His own book
10. His publicist
11. Dallas police Department
12. Paramedics Tuesday night
13. Even his own trainer

TO's Comment smacks more of damage control than "facts".

Fact:
An anxious Kim Etheredge, publicist for Cowboys receiver Terrell Owens, called 911 just before 8 p.m. Tuesday asking dispatchers to send an ambulance immediately to a downtown Commerce Street address. "I think he took too many pills," Etheredge can be heard saying on an audio recording of the call released late Thursday by Dallas Fire-Rescue. "Please. Now. What do I do?
"The pills are down his throat."
A dispatcher asks: "Is he still breathing?"
She replies: "Yes," and a dispatcher tells Etheredge that help is on the way.
Police have reclassified the incident at Owens' home as an accidental overdose rather than an attempted suicide, as initially reported, Dallas police Chief David Kunkle said Thursday. Owens was released from Baylor University Medical Center on Wednesday.
The chief also said that he stands behind his officers' original report and the initial conclusions they drew based on what they saw and heard.

Fact:
James "Buddy" Primm, Terrell Owens' personal trainer, said Thursday that the Cowboys wide receiver had relieved him of his services and was no longer speaking to him.

In a telephone conversation with The Dallas Morning News, Mr. Owens acknowledged as much and said Mr. Primm "had no business" discussing details of his private life with the news media.
Cowboys/NFL

Mr. Primm, 55, said Wednesday that Mr. Owens had been distraught over not being able to see his son, who celebrated his 7th birthday Monday. Hours later, he said, the receiver's fiancée, a woman he had dated for three years, ended their engagement.

There are other facts that demonstrate his version doesn't make much sense, but you can read those yourself. This appears to be more than just getting face time or his desire to be in the spotlight. Given his history, he appears to suffer from borderline personality disorder. This affliction is generally diagnosed after the fact, however Mr. Owens is fortunate in that many have had the opportunity to view him and his behavior over an extended period, if anyone will be so bold as to suggest to him that he get help or he sits. See if any of these sound familiar:

Borderline Personality Disorder

Diagnostic Criteria

A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.
2. a pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation
3. identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self
4. impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.
5. recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior
6. affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days)
7. chronic feelings of emptiness
8. inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights) ask Hugh Douglas
9. transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms

Last fact: Bill Walsh and the 49er organization, as well as Andy Reid and the Eagles asked TO to have a psychiatric evaluation. He refused and asked to be released. Why did they ask? Guess they just misunderstood his addiction to attention.

To answer your question "Why single out TO?" Terrell Owens is exhibiting more than your garden variety self-importance. He is and has historically exhibited signs of a mental disorder. That doesn't change the fact that he is a tremendous athlete. That fact doesn't place him above his team in the hierarchy of importance, even if he and the team don't exactly line up in rank on each's list of importance.

For all his accomplishments and antics, I can't get around how he managed in short order to completely flush an entire season for a team in 2005 that was in contention for the NFC Championship because he felt he wasn't given the proper respect. The best thing the Cowboys can do (long term) is to get him some help and make him understand the whole team thing and how he and the team can coexist and benefit each other. Probably, they will do the best thing (short term) and get him in the lineup Sunday and me and all the other suppliers can anxiously await feeding his demon in the months to come.

I heard a guy on the radio who said that the ultimate test for an organization should be (in the spirit of WWJD) WWNED - What would New England do? I dare say they would sit his butt on the bench until he got help. If he refused. Well, other teams have shown they know what to do then.

Here is what a San Francisco reporter remembers about the "original" Terrell Owens:

C.W. Nevius.blog : The Long, Strange Trip of Terrell Owens

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by etodd

Really? So I guess the fact that I am commenting on it makes me part of his problem. (?)

That would be a great big YES...And given your propesity for gathering 'the facts" and putting forth a page worth of them in defense of your thesis... you are among the front runners in this forum. But hey, are we saying you have a need to be heard, be right, or suffering from a personality disorder too?...naaaaw

But pat yourself on the back...recognizing the problem is the first step towards a quick and prompt recovery...

Now unless you can produce the document that makes you a mental health care professional, I would also say, that you (like the rest of us) have a layman's take on TO's mental state...but just in case I am horribly wrong...welcome to the forum Dr. etodd...