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Old 02-28-2007, 06:01 AM
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Did Buccaneers GM Bruce Allen Rig the Coin Toss?
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So Allen provided a special coin, Allen decided whether to call heads or tails, and Allen was obsessed with knowing whether the coin would fall to the ground or be caught in the air and turned over. Gee, does it sound like Allen knew whether heads or tails was coming up? And then it turns out that the result of the toss saved Allen's team $7 million?

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and I'm also not so sure Johnson will be around with the fourth pick, but this is just strange. If the NFL is going to use a coin flip for something so important that it could mean $7 million to a team, shouldn't it ensure that the coin flip is fair?

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Old 02-28-2007, 06:09 AM
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Re: Bucs Browns coin flip conspiracy?

Check out what SI's Peter King had to say about the coin flip.

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SI.com - Writers - Notes from Indy (cont.) - Monday February 26, 2007 2:27PM
There was almost a mini-scandal in the coin flip for the third pick in the draft. The Bucs and Browns finished tied for the third pick, because their opponents' won-loss records were identical. So Friday morning, Savage and Tampa Bay GM Bruce Allen met in a Westin Hotel conference room to break the tie for the third pick of the draft. Imagine the significance here.

Allen came into the room with a coin he wanted to use, one from a military base in Florida. That was fine with Savage. League officials Joel Bussert and Ken Fiore ran it. Allen called heads. And when the coin went up in the air, Allen shouted, "Wait! Wait!'' The coin was plucked out of the air. And Allen said, "What are we going to do, let it fall to the floor or catch it and flip it over on your hand?'' Let it fall, he was told. He called heads again. It came up tails.

Pretty big stuff. Might be the difference between the guy who can save your team for the next three or four years or the guy who might be a nice, complimentary player. "It was just nice to get a win,'' said Savage, sounding like a desperate coach. "We gotta string some wins like that together.''
Interesting. So do you guys think the coin toss might have been rigged?
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Old 02-28-2007, 08:40 AM
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Re: Bucs Browns coin flip conspiracy?

I don't get the controversy here unless I missed something. They used the coin Allen wanted, and he made them retoss after stopping to ask a question. He ended up losing. If anybody was to call foul, it should be Savage.
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He lost, there should no story here lol.

Gotta love how these big decisions are handled in sports, here, two NFL GMs and league officials meet in a hotel room and flip a coin.
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He lost, there should no story here lol.

Gotta love how these big decisions are handled in sports, here, two NFL GMs and league officials meet in a hotel room and flip a coin.
It would be better if they gave everybody a bonus game and made them settle it on the field like they do in baseball
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I don't get the controversy here unless I missed something. They used the coin Allen wanted, and he made them retoss after stopping to ask a question. He ended up losing. If anybody was to call foul, it should be Savage.
That's just it... the conspiracy theorists claim that Allen intentionally lost the coin flip to save himself about $7. He's counting on Calvin Johnson still being there a #4, and the difference between a #3 and a #4 is about $7 mill. I personally can't see anyone doing something like this, but then, rumor has it that's why the Vikings were late getting their one draft pick in that one season, so who knows for sure?
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