[Lefty Noob]

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have had 7 head coaches during their history:
John McKay (1976-1984), Leeman Bennett (1985-1986), Ray Perkins (1987-1990), Richard Williamson (1990-1991), Sam Wyche (1992-1995), Tony Dungy (1996-2001), Jon Gruden (2002-current)

Of those, five of them are more famous for losing than winning. But still I have to ask the question - who was the greatest head coach in Bucs history? McKay's one of my favorites, but for all the wrong reasons. I'd have to go with Dungy myself. I know Gruden won the Super Bowl, but it was Dungy who built that team. Gruden's overrated, don't you think?

[BigBadBuc]

I loved McKay's quote when the Bucs were 0-14 one year. The reporter ask McKay what he thought about his teams execution. McKay said. "I'm all for it".

A classic

BBB

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Mckay was the best by far...he had to endure an 0-26 start to develop a team that shortly thereafter was in the NFC title game...

[ThePundit]

Gruden. Did everyone forget that he won a Super Bowl?

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by ThePundit

Gruden. Did everyone forget that he won a Super Bowl?

Dungy left him the parts in place...he don't count

[ThePundit]

But Dungy didn't win - Gruden did.

I was really disappointed in the game Dungy coached against the Steelers. He didn't even have full control of the team. Manning seemed to be the coach when he sent the punting team off the field.

Question for everyone: Do you blame Dungy for giving the starters too much rest before the playoffs started so they were out of sync in the playoffs. 2) Do you blame Dungy for not making offensive adjustments when the Steelers were kicking the crap out of Manning? Example: He could have tried giving the ball to Edgerin or throwing shorter like they did at the beginning of the year when teams were playing 10 DB's against them.

Or do we give him a pass because of that terrible tragedy he experienced? I hate to judge anyone off an event like that but I'm starting to get the feeling that Dungy is the kind of coach who can turn a program around but can't win the big game.

[Lefty Noob]

Gruden was lucky. His team doesn't win that Super Bowl unless he's playing his ex-team and his ex-offensive coordinator, who I'm sure you all will recall didn't have the good sense to change the playbook. If his team didn't know the play calls, they don't win that game. Dungy was and is a better coach.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Gruden was lucky. His team doesn't win that Super Bowl unless he's playing his ex-team and his ex-offensive coordinator, who I'm sure you all will recall didn't have the good sense to change the playbook. If his team didn't know the play calls, the don't win that game. Dungy was and is a better coach.

Yeah...you tell him Lefty...I thought Gruden was over rated as well...Dungy built the team, gets kicked out...in comes Gruden and he goes against the Raiders...why not gift wrap it all for him...

[ThePundit]

So Dungy set it up for Gruden? Fair enough. Following that logic, did Gruden not set up a Super Bowl appearance for Calahan with Oakland? So Gruden had 2 teams in the same Superbowl....Pretty impressive. You can't have it both ways.

It's close but after watching Dungy coach an awful game against Pittsburgh, I personally would take Gruden.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by ThePundit

So Dungy set it up for Gruden? Fair enough. Following that logic, did Gruden not set up a Super Bowl appearance for Calahan with Oakland? So Gruden had 2 teams in the same Superbowl....Pretty impressive. You can't have it both ways.

It's close but after watching Dungy coach an awful game against Pittsburgh, I personally would take Gruden.

Actually not a bad arguement...Good for you Pundit...I still perfer McKay, but good argument...

[Wizard of Os]

Chucky! Gotta go with Chucky!

Dungy has proven little more than he knows how to uninspire a team come crunch time a lot like Andy Reid.

Now, if the Buccaneers had beaten the Rams in the 2000 NFC championship with Shaun King at QB, i'd probably go with Dungy. Of course, Dungy might still be the head at Tampa Bay and the question would go unasked...

[Wizard of Os]

Originally Posted by ThePundit

So Dungy set it up for Gruden? Fair enough. Following that logic, did Gruden not set up a Super Bowl appearance for Calahan with Oakland? So Gruden had 2 teams in the same Superbowl....Pretty impressive. You can't have it both ways.

Thanks for helping me out, Rundit. If y ou don't mind, i'd like to adapt such logic the next time someone questions the skill of Phil Jackson.

Cheers, all.

can anyone tell me the name of all the head coaches who coaches the Bucs from day one?

[Lefty Noob]

It's in the first post, but I'll quote it down here for reference sake.

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have had 7 head coaches during their history:
John McKay (1976-1984), Leeman Bennett (1985-1986), Ray Perkins (1987-1990), Richard Williamson (1990-1991), Sam Wyche (1992-1995), Tony Dungy (1996-2001), Jon Gruden (2002-current)

Thanks for the names of the coaches. And yes I agree with you fully - Tony Dungy is A#1. That was Tony's team that won the Super Bowl. And anyone who thinks differently should take a good look at what Gruden did after he won the Super Bowl via Tony. He fired or let go all the players who won that Super Bowl - who in there right mind would do something like that? And what have they done since? Gruden's problem is his EGO - somebody told him he was coach material and he believed it. The only way the Bucs are ever going to be anything is IF they get rid of Gruden. Has anyone noticed how the Glasers are no longer in the picture? Where is that patting Gruden on the back of all his good work? I live in the Tampa Bay area and you do not even see them on TV touting their team. They used to be on TV all the time, are they in hiding? I know I would be if I owned the Bucs. But wait - if I owned the Bucs - Tony would still be coach and the Bucs would be in the playoff right now.