[vincesanity82]

Cardinals signed RHP Matt Clement, who had been with the Red Sox, to a one-year contract with a club option for 2009.
Clement figures to join Adam Wainwright, Braden Looper, Mark Mulder and Joel Pineiro in the Cardinals' rotation. If all five are healthy, that'd leave Anthony Reyes and Todd Wellemeyer on the outside looking in. Chris Carpenter will miss at least the first half of the year following Tommy John surgery.

Matt Clement

[azrael492]

He should be OK as long as he doesn't flinch every time he pitches. He was a good strike out pitcher so far in his career, and was winning pretty well in Boston before the injury. I hope he gets it back.

[Lefty Noob]

Well, so much for him going to Pittsburgh. I guess their unwillingness to give him anything but a minor league contract did the deal in.

[Seahawker 562]

haha i was thinkin arizona cardinals, i was like, whys he in football......?

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Seahawker 562

haha i was thinkin arizona cardinals, i was like, whys he in football......?

Yeah, I always thought it weird that both teams were called the Cardinals when in St. Louis...how did that happen?...Anyone know?

[Seahawker 562]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Yeah, I always thought it weird that both teams were called the Cardinals when in St. Louis...how did that happen?...Anyone know?

well the football team, arizona cardinals used to play for st louis. So they had 2 cardinals teams. yeah but im not sure why they were both called cards, confusing

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Seahawker 562

well the football team, arizona cardinals used to play for st louis. So they had 2 cardinals teams. yeah but im not sure why they were both called cards, confusing

Well, the football cardinals were the Cardinals back in Chicago even, so the knickname predated their move to St. Louis.

[Seahawker 562]

wait, so they were chicago cardinals

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Seahawker 562

wait, so they were chicago cardinals

Yes sir, indeed they were.

[Seahawker 562]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Yes sir, indeed they were.

haha those to names just dont go togethor

[Lefty Noob]

Time for a history lesson!

The Cardinals are the oldest existing football club in the United States, beginning as an amateur athletic club team in Chicago named the Morgan Athletic Club, which was founded by Chicago painter/builder Chris O'Brien in 1898. Early in the 20th century (by 1913), the team turned professional.

O'Brien later moved them to Chicago's Normal Park and renamed them the Racine Normals, since Normal Park was located on Racine Avenue in Chicago. In 1901, O'Brien bought used maroon uniforms from the University of Chicago, the colors of which had by then faded, leading O'Brien to exclaim, "That's not maroon, it's cardinal red!" It was then that the team changed its name to the Racine Cardinals.

The team disbanded in 1906 mostly for lack of local competition, but reformed in 1913. They were forced to suspend operations for a second time in 1918 because of World War I and the outbreak of the Spanish Flu Pandemic. They resumed operations later in the year, and have since operated continuously.

In 1920, the team became a charter member of the American Professional Football Association (which became the NFL in 1922), for a franchise fee of $100USD. The Cardinals and the Bears (originally founded as the Decatur Staleys before moving to Chicago in 1921) are the only charter members of the NFL still in existence, though the Green Bay Packers, who joined the league in 1921, existed prior to the formation of the NFL. The person keeping the minutes of the first league meeting, unfamiliar with the nuances of Chicago football, recorded the Cardinals as Racine, Wisconsin. The team was renamed the Chicago Cardinals in 1922, after the NFL placed a team in the Wisconsin city. That season the Cardinals moved to Comiskey Park.

SOURCE: Arizona Cardinals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Seahawker 562]

thanks lefty, good read

[azrael492]

I didn't know that either. I didn't know it had as much history as baseball.