[lilsexy08]

Tony deserves a thread of his own for his fantastic win at Daytona July 4th! I couldn't believe the finish I was at the edge of my seat! I thought Tony lost till the final turn and he bumped Kyle out of the way for the win! Hey don't beat yourself up you sexy thing for bumping Kyle out of the way! It's racing baby at its best! That was one of the best finishes I've seen in a long time! Keep the winning races coming Tony!

When Tony says he is too fat to climb the fence now-no your not! Your perfect and your hot and sexy! Is it hot in here or what sorry got carried away! LOL!

[mike honcho]

yea I don't know why Tony is beating himself over it.If the shoe was on the other foot he would have gotten worse from Kyle and we know he doesn't feel no remorse for his actions.

[SteelPhoenyx]

Far as I'm concerned, Kyle punted himself off of the front of Tony's car.

Congratulations to Tony Stewart and the 14 team... they deserved the win.

I don't know about the 'old and fat' thing. Ownership must agree with Tony, he's looking better now than he has in the past couple years. Looks 10 years younger than he did last year.

[nascaraddict]

I'm not 100% happy in the way that my boy Tony won this one, but I'm just glad that he's still in the lead in points.

[saltysenior]

i wonder what would be said if the 14 car was in front and the 18 was behind, and the same things happened ????........let's be honest

[OrionBen]

Originally Posted by nascaraddict

I'm not 100% happy in the way that my boy Tony won this one, but I'm just glad that he's still in the lead in points.

Totally agree, same as Keselowski punting Edwards at talladegga and Kurt Busch at Bristol in the year past.

Punting someone out of the way (or excesive blocking) should be penalize just like the they in the Camping World West at Infineon when Logano was punted out in the last corner, and the punter was dq.

Nice for Tony (I like him as much as Kyle) and he had the best car, but winning by punting is not clean racing. And I didn't even notice he won until everything clean out. I was more interesting to know if everybody was ok with those big smash out there.

[Robertdjr]

Originally Posted by SteelPhoenyx

Far as I'm concerned, Kyle punted himself off of the front of Tony's car.

I'm with you on that one. Kyle punted Kyle believing DW's hype that he can go 3 wide all by himself. Only problem with that...Smoke was already in one of those grooves headed in a straight line for the checkered flag.

[loco4pablo]

Originally Posted by saltysenior

i wonder what would be said if the 14 car was in front and the 18 was behind, and the same things happened ????........let's be honest

We know what would have happened... This thread would be 6 pages by now...people heer for sum reason Love Tony!

I myself say it wasn't a real win because the engines were restricted!!

[jks812]

Originally Posted by saltysenior

i wonder what would be said if the 14 car was in front and the 18 was behind, and the same things happened ????........let's be honest

The same thing as is being said now, it's all Kyle's fault. To me it was just 2 guys going wide open for the win.
To some, it's his fault, if he'd been behind the 14 and the same thing happened, it'd still been his fault.

[MikeRaceDayTek]

Originally Posted by OrionBen

Totally agree, same as Keselowski punting Edwards at talladegga and Kurt Busch at Bristol in the year past.

Punting someone out of the way (or excesive blocking) should be penalize just like the they in the Camping World West at Infineon when Logano was punted out in the last corner, and the punter was dq.

Nice for Tony (I like him as much as Kyle) and he had the best car, but winning by punting is not clean racing. And I didn't even notice he won until everything clean out. I was more interesting to know if everybody was ok with those big smash out there.

For serious?? Tony "punted" Kyle? Apparently I missed that part of the 500 replays that they did. And for the record, Brad K didn't "punt" Edwards either. If you want someone to be penalized, then Kyle should be for, as you said, "excessive blocking". Tony did not intentionally spin him, and if you watch the replay slowly, you can see him start to move up the track to try to avoid Kyle's blocking move.

Tony's only other option is the brakes, and can you honestly say that you would have hit them, sacrificing an at least 2nd place finish, when you are leading the points? If so, I know have an easy explanation for why you are watching the races from home and not out there driving one of those cars. Because every top tier team owner would fire your tail in a heartbeat if you do that.

[saltysenior]

Originally Posted by MikeRaceDayTek

For serious?? Tony "punted" Kyle? Apparently I missed that part of the 500 replays that they did. And for the record, Brad K didn't "punt" Edwards either. If you want someone to be penalized, then Kyle should be for, as you said, "excessive blocking". Tony did not intentionally spin him, and if you watch the replay slowly, you can see him start to move up the track to try to avoid Kyle's blocking move.

Tony's only other option is the brakes, and can you honestly say that you would have hit them, sacrificing an at least 2nd place finish, when you are leading the points? If so, I know have an easy explanation for why you are watching the races from home and not out there driving one of those cars. Because every top tier team owner would fire your tail in a heartbeat if you do that.

go to u tube,,,,,,,, watch the replays of the finish,,,,,they show the 14 car tapping the rear of the 18,,,,,the 18 gets squierrely , recovers but finds himself lower,,,,then he moves up to block the 14 and make contact and spins.....the punting was the initial tap by the 14 car,and like i said before, i think that is why tony said what he said after the race....

[MikeRaceDayTek]

Originally Posted by saltysenior

go to u tube,,,,,,,, watch the replays of the finish,,,,,they show the 14 car tapping the rear of the 18,,,,,the 18 gets squierrely , recovers but finds himself lower,,,,then he moves up to block the 14 and make contact and spins.....the punting was the initial tap by the 14 car,and like i said before, i think that is why tony said what he said after the race....

I've seen the replay. Tony moves low after getting an awesome bump from Johnson, Kyle moves low to block (too late) and gets squirrelly since he tried to block a car that already had it's nose under him. Kyle made a great catch, then came back up the track to block Tony (who was already beside him, again) for a second time and got turned.

Kyle made 2 blocking mistakes and you want to blame Tony. Way to go. Welcome to the world of restrictor plate racing. Tony isn't going to break momentum, Kyle is going to block. I had more respect after Edwards got turned, since his comment was "I tried to block someone who was already there". If Kyle had half a brain in that mushy little "sippy-cup" head of his, he would have realized the same thing, grown up, and given a quick interview just to let his 15 or 20 fans worldwide know he was ok.

[OrionBen]

Originally Posted by MikeRaceDayTek

For serious?? Tony "punted" Kyle? Apparently I missed that part of the 500 replays that they did.

Kyle didn't went in the wall by himself.

Originally Posted by MikeRaceDayTek

And for the record, Brad K didn't "punt" Edwards either.

Ditto for Edwards

Originally Posted by MikeRaceDayTek

If you want someone to be penalized, then Kyle should be for, as you said, "excessive blocking".

In both case, yes it looks like blocking by the lead car, so yeah in those they should penalize the blocker, as blocking can be dangerous driving.

Originally Posted by MikeRaceDayTek

Tony did not intentionally spin him, and if you watch the replay slowly, you can see him start to move up the track to try to avoid Kyle's blocking move.

But he did touch him and I don't think any decent driver want to punt someone intentionally.

Originally Posted by MikeRaceDayTek

Tony's only other option is the brakes, and can you honestly say that you would have hit them, sacrificing an at least 2nd place finish, when you are leading the points? If so, I know have an easy explanation for why you are watching the races from home and not out there driving one of those cars. Because every top tier team owner would fire your tail in a heartbeat if you do that.

I don't agree, Tony was going for the win, no matter the standing. If Tony was going for the championship, he would have stick with Kyle and pass him without contact if Kyle made a mistake and avoid any contact in the last and risk spinning and finishing in the 30th range.

[OrionBen]

Originally Posted by MikeRaceDayTek

Kyle made 2 blocking mistakes and you want to blame Tony. Way to go. Welcome to the world of restrictor plate racing. Tony isn't going to break momentum, Kyle is going to block.

That is 100% true. But the question, is what can be done with restrictor plate racing. Keep it as is, someone (driver or fan died and will die again)

Remove Daytona and Talladegga from the schedule? Unthinkable.

Remove the banking, those track will become the next Poconos

Smaller engine? Maybe

I had more respect after Edwards got turned, since his comment was "I tried to block someone who was already there". If Kyle had half a brain in that mushy little "sippy-cup" head of his, he would have realized the same thing, grown up, and given a quick interview just to let his 15 or 20 fans worldwide know he was ok.

But Edwards is the same guy who says I didn't mean to put him, more than once.

As for Kyle, he definitely need to mature with interview after wreck or non win. And a win is great, but when you go for the championship, sometime second is as good as first (especially in the Nationwide where there is no chase)

[Jeffrey4396]

Originally Posted by MikeRaceDayTek

I've seen the replay. Tony moves low after getting an awesome bump from Johnson, Kyle moves low to block (too late) and gets squirrelly since he tried to block a car that already had it's nose under him. Kyle made a great catch, then came back up the track to block Tony (who was already beside him, again) for a second time and got turned.

Kyle made 2 blocking mistakes and you want to blame Tony. Way to go. Welcome to the world of restrictor plate racing. Tony isn't going to break momentum, Kyle is going to block. I had more respect after Edwards got turned, since his comment was "I tried to block someone who was already there". If Kyle had half a brain in that mushy little "sippy-cup" head of his, he would have realized the same thing, grown up, and given a quick interview just to let his 15 or 20 fans worldwide know he was ok.

This is 100% accurate.