[clutch]

I'm saddened by the negative comments left at this site and on other sites that seem to stand behind Nascar 100%..........for what?ever reason. I can only imagine that it because drugs are supposed to be involved.......never mind that Nascar have tried to KILL the career of Carl Long ....or fine Robby Gordon at the drop of the hat.........nor the fact that a judge today ordered the suspension lifted..........why not just let this drama play itself out within the legal system ....when you ...AND I have no real idea what has really happened......I prefer to be optimistic for Mayfield but I could be WAY wrong...but let the courts decide because I DONT trust NASCAR one bit.

[clutch]

I think its reasonable to look at all info available......
Jeremy Mayfield wins injunction, may race at Daytona - Sprint Cup Series | NASCAR Racing News - SceneDaily.com

[jks812]

I haven't said hang him. I don't believe nascar 100% either, especially when it was reported what he was taking.

[nascaraddict]

Just make sure that if you have the sniffles, don't take no Clariton.

[Racer Duck]

As these kinds of things usually play out, once charged and backed up with evidence supporting the charge, the appropriate action is to issue the suspension. Then comes the legal conflict which amounts to a lot of PR on both sides supporting their case, the primary focus is validating the evidence.

The fact that there was "something" which triggered the fire alarm gives cause to support the guilt as stated. Whether that "something" is actually an illegal substance or not is something that will be played out in court.

But this is similar to a 2-time loser claiming he was framed for being caught "sorta dirty" .. it's gonna take a pretty good case to win this one. Jeremy had a bad rep BEFORE all this started.

Lots of folks adhere to the "where there's smoke, there's fire" moto. The latest evidence of which is Gunselman's sponsor stating he doesn't want Jeremy in the #64 car at Daytona. And I suspect there's very few sponsors of cars entered in the race that would accept him as a substitute driver .. the potential economic backlash is too risky.

And, add to the "pressure" on teams and sponsors who might consider allowing Jeremy to drive is the fact that:

several drivers, including Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson, recently filed affidavits of their own about the safety of driving with impaired competition. Let's revisit their words:

5. I make my livelihood by racing in NASCAR events. Racing is my life and career. However I am not willing to put my life at risk driving a racecar on a NASCAR track with drivers testing positive for drugs that diminish their capacity to drive a racecar. I support NASCAR's Substance Abuse Policy and depend on NASCAR to prohibit drivers who don't abide by the policy from racing.
6. If drivers are on the track in violation of NASCAR's Substance Abuse Policy, it presents serious questions as to whether or not it makes sense for me to put my life at risk.

Jeremy Mayfield's coming back, but who'll race with him? - From the Marbles... - NASCAR - Yahoo! Sports

We all know NASCAR is all about money. And, quite frankly, Jeremy has never attained the rarified atmosphere of Jeff or Jimmie. The threat of these drivers staging a "walkout" if Jeremy is allowed to race is catastrophic to NASCAR .. that means any team or team sponsor who entertains putting Jeremy in their car will feel "intense pressure" from NASCAR. (I'll let your imagination work on that one.)

Whether he likes it or not, Jeremy is 99.99% done as a racecar driver in NASCAR. The 0.01% that's his only hope is IF his legal team can somehow prove it wasn't Jeremy's urine in the cup or that it had been tampered with. Right now there's been two different labs who have tested both his A and B samples and both places came up with the same results.

I, personally, don't hold out any hope for Jeremy's salvation even if there is a "legal technicality" which grants him a reprieve.

[Lefturn]

I agree that Jeremy is done. While I understand his desire to clear his name, even if he wins nobody will touch him. He best look at a non driver role in NASCAR as he is now black listed.

[nascaraddict]

Originally Posted by Lefturn

I agree that Jeremy is done. While I understand his desire to clear his name, even if he wins nobody will touch him. He best look at a non driver role in NASCAR as he is now black listed.

That's been my fear all along. That the guy would be black listed by NA_CAR. And the only way he could get an even shake would be for him to start his own team. And he doesn't have the deep pockets or the backers for that.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by clutch

I'm saddened by the negative comments left at this site and on other sites that seem to stand behind Nascar 100%..........for what?ever reason. I can only imagine that it because drugs are supposed to be involved.......never mind that Nascar have tried to KILL the career of Carl Long ....or fine Robby Gordon at the drop of the hat.........nor the fact that a judge today ordered the suspension lifted..........why not just let this drama play itself out within the legal system ....when you ...AND I have no real idea what has really happened......I prefer to be optimistic for Mayfield but I could be WAY wrong...but let the courts decide because I DONT trust NASCAR one bit.

Good points. I tend to agree but I wouldn't jump at the it's an either/or type of situation when it comes to the way the fans here view it. I realize it's anecdotal but I'll give my personal position as an example:

(1) I don't care for Mayfield. never have and never will. His personality when he first arrived on the scene, back in the mid 90's when Cale picked him up, reminded me of a latter day DW. 'Nuff said about that.
(2) I worked with addicts and alcoholics the first 2/3's of my life after I retired from the Navy. I can't say if he uses or not but his persecution complex ("It's not my fault. They're doing this to me," as evidenced by his behavior with Penske, Evernham and Davis) is typical addictive behaviour. An indication but definitely NOT a certainty.
(3) I believe NA__AR used it's bully pulpit of the media to prematurely turn sentiment against Mayfield. I fond this doubly objectionable in light of NA__AR's history of doing this before with Tim Richmond. (Coincidentally the last time a court sided against NA__AR is a drug-related appeal) You've read my rants long enough to know Bob holds no love for this current sanctioning body of NA__AR, right?

Personally I hope Mayfield is gone, gone, gone. Not because of his alleged drug abuse. That's yet to be proven. I want to see him go because I think ultimately he's just bad for the sport, as evidenced by his multiple past team relationship problems. Good riddance. Now, if they could just get NA__AR to follow him and put NASCAR back in charge, all would be right with my personal little motor sports world.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Good points. I tend to agree but I wouldn't jump at the it's an either/or type of situation when it comes to the way the fans here view it. I realize it's anecdotal but I'll give my personal position as an example:

(1) I don't care for Mayfield. never have and never will. His personality when he first arrived on the scene, back in the mid 90's when Cale picked him up, reminded me of a latter day DW. 'Nuff said about that.
(2) I worked with addicts and alcoholics the first 2/3's of my life after I retired from the Navy. I can't say if he uses or not but his persecution complex ("It's not my fault. They're doing this to me," as evidenced by his behavior with Penske, Evernham and Davis) is typical addictive behaviour. An indication but definitely NOT a certainty.
(3) I believe NA__AR used it's bully pulpit of the media to prematurely turn sentiment against Mayfield. I fond this doubly objectionable in light of NA__AR's history of doing this before with Tim Richmond. (Coincidentally the last time a court sided against NA__AR is a drug-related appeal) You've read my rants long enough to know Bob holds no love for this current sanctioning body of NA__AR, right?

Personally I hope Mayfield is gone, gone, gone. Not because of his alleged drug abuse. That's yet to be proven. I want to see him go because I think ultimately he's just bad for the sport, as evidenced by his multiple past team relationship problems. Good riddance. Now, if they could just get NA__AR to follow him and put NASCAR back in charge, all would be right with my personal little motor sports world.

Ditto.

Any chance Family France will follow Family George's lead?

[bob101]

I am not behind NASCAR 100%. I do believe in reality. What is Mayfieild going to "win" even if he eventually wins his lawsuit? Besides spending a ton of money.

Even if he wins you think he will ever become a regular on any NASCAR circuit? What sponsor is going to throw support his way. His current sponsors have already sent out releases saying they are pulling out their support.

He "won" an injunction which is what he was after so he could race. Then in the first sentence after he learned of it he says he doesn't have a car, sponsorship, or money to race now.......

It's called reality. Sometimes when you win you actually loose.

[Motorsports One]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Personally I hope Mayfield is gone, gone, gone. Not because of his alleged drug abuse. That's yet to be proven. I want to see him go because I think ultimately he's just bad for the sport, as evidenced by his multiple past team relationship problems. Good riddance.

So far this weekend at Daytona, 4 Toyota teams have said they will not let him drive their car. #64 signed a sponsor which doesn't want him in the car, #36's owner Tommy Baldwin says Jeremy has baggage he doesn't want to deal with, #66 says it's keeping Blaney in (for a S&P effort) and #87 Joe Nemechek says he has no intention to give up his seat (although he might if Scott Speed fails to qualify again).

[stroker crank]

If it turns out the test results were wrong, I hope he sues the balls off nascar. And wins.

[loco4pablo]

Originally Posted by stroker crank

If it turns out the test results were wrong, I hope he sues the balls off nascar. And wins.

Why would you want Jeremy to sue nascar?? what do you have against nascar?
All I know is, nascar made Jeremy Mayfield a millionaire for god sakes. Jeremy has lived a charmed life since he came into this sport, he had quality rides (Penske, EMS), he had quality sponsors and endorsements (mobil, dodge dealers).... Jeremy has always been his own biggest enemy. Even when he decided to start his own team he was able to lock up sponsorship which isn't an easy task in todays economy.... Once again Jeremy blew it!!
I wish some of these nascar bleeding hearts would see it for what it is.
When Arron Fike was busted with Heron everyone blasted nascar for not having a drug policy and "how could they endanger other drivers and fans lives"
nascar acted... well now they have a policy.... Bottom line is Jeremy failed the test... What was nascar to do? They suspended him.. just like they did in Feb. when they busted some of Jeremy's crew members....Which I'm willing to bet they failed for the same thing...Nothing was said when these crew members were suspended....Only difference is Jeremy has some of his NASCAR money to hire lawyers!

[kerribear17]

Originally Posted by nascaraddict

Just make sure that if you have the sniffles, don't take no Clariton.

Heh that's what Carl Edwards endorses.

[bob101]

Just means the next time someone flunks a drug test the courts will have to get involved again as well....