[PenelopePitStop]

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Originally Posted by Shocker0
Good I guess he's doing something right since you've finally ran out of reasons to bash him. Go Kyle!


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Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop
Uh, no. That wouldn't be it. Finally? How many of my posts have you read?

Originally Posted by Shocker0

Enough to know better

Well, I'd ask you to state your case, but I think you would make it personal. That's not what I'm here for.

So long ...

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by clutch

Re: New Zealand Section 123 of the Crimes Act 1961,

funny I read that and thought that may be correct and thought I better check it out before I answered.....Are you telling me its true?...LOL

As near as I can tell from the minor research I did, it is, Mate. I think it's officially listed under the Anti-Blasphemy Law.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by salysenior

how come there is no problems like this over at the baseball section???? there are many more active players than active drivers,but nobody hates any of them.....

I don't get involved because I gave up on S&B in 1987. However, I have heard the words "Hate," "Detest," and maybe even one "Abhor" bandied about quire freely in discussions I have heard involving the Yankees and Red Sox, Dallas and the Redskins, and Montreal and just about every other team in the NHL.

As far as the NASCAR and NA__AR fans go... stock car racing is, by nature, a violent sport. As much as the media and the "neo-fans" would like it to be other wise, NASCAR is NOT a team sport. It's performed by individuals, aided by others. Add to this the fact that long-time NASCAR fans have been kind of maligned by the media and other sports. This neglect has driven many of us to take our sport a bit more seriously than other sport followers. Also the fact that, by its design, NASCAR is a personality-driven sport.

Mix all this together and, I guess, you have a breeding ground for fanaticism.

[saltysenior]

I fished all my life, but what does trolling mean in cyber space lingo????

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by salysenior

I fished all my life, but what does trolling mean in cyber space lingo????

Looking for a debate, arguement or some form of verbal confrontation. Trying to elicit a reaction.

[Robertdjr]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Looking for a debate, arguement or some form of verbal confrontation. Trying to elicit a reaction.

Also, trolling is someone who posts inflammatory, rude or offensive messages designed to annoy and antagonize other members or disrupt the flow of discussion. Not a good thing to do, because it usually gets you a quick trip to banned camp.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by 3fanforever

Also, trolling is someone who posts inflammatory, rude or offensive messages designed to annoy and antagonize other members or disrupt the flow of discussion. Not a good thing to do, because it usually gets you a quick trip to banned camp.

There have been some "on the edge" posts lately. Hopefully that will stop real soon. I've seen all I want !!!

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

There have been some "on the edge" posts lately. Hopefully that will stop real soon. I've seen all I want !!!

Remember when those "edge" posts always involved Jeff Gordon? Boy, have the times changed.

[saltysenior]

so then it is sorta like ''chumming''???

[jks812]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

Remember when those "edge" posts always involved Jeff Gordon? Boy, have the times changed.

We always seem to complain about or take up for the one who's doing the winning. I still don't like Jeff anymore than I did last year, but he's giving me nothing to complain about this year.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

Remember when those "edge" posts always involved Jeff Gordon? Boy, have the times changed.

There's always a cycle. JPM was in the bucket for a while, JJ, Jeff ... now Kyle. I have no problem bashing the drivers/teams. It just isn't acceptable when one poster finds another posters opinions objectionable and airs the complaints publicly. Can't understand why they just don't avoid the subject ???????

[WestCoast]

I think that it may have something to do with the more "mature" members trying to educate the "kids" about social behavior and respect. Maybe unwarranted attacks need to be kept in check by the Mods as well, so a public Forum doesn't turn into a festering ground of negative perception about a single sport figure by cyber misfits.
It's funny how the "rules" allow for continued mindless "driver" bashing, but I suppose it's just part of the Forum's program to attract newer and younger participants.
There is something Nascar about that.

[Racer Duck]

bashing is allowed by Forum Rules .. but NOT member bashing.

and we do take it very seriously. you won't see a public display of punishment, but, believe me, it's swift and harsh.

[Bob Tanner]

I'm going on a bit of a soapbox here, so beware...

Bashing... There is bashing and then there is "bashing." I've been on, and kicked off, forums (AOL Grandstand - NASCAR, to be specific on the one which sticks in my craw) where anything opinion differing with the forum moderators, or moderator's "pets" was considered "bashing" and therefore gained one immediate expulsion. The forum was a haven for DW and Mikey fans so you can imagine how long The Bobster lasted.

Personally I have no problem with bashing IF the basher gives examples of why they have developed a dislike for the object of their wrath. They don't even have to be good or even logical reasons. There was, a couple of years ago, a member here who, along with a couple of friends have gone on to other venues, who disliked idolized Kasey Kahne but abhorred Robby Gordon. I pressed her for a reason almost to the point of harassment but the best I could get out of her was, "I don't know why, I just hate him." Not much of a reason but, for her a reason, I guess. Personally, I'd just like something so that those of us who wish to discuss the matter can have a frame of reference.

What I DO have a problem with is the "drive-by" bashers. You've all seen them. The one's whose best attempt at eloquence is "I hate [insert driver, team, car make, NA__AR official, whatever]. He/she SUX!" Or the ever popular "[insert driver]'s queer!" People who have nothing better to offer than this should, IMNSVHO, be required to take some sort of intelligence test before being allowed to log onto the net.

I also think "Hate" and "Love" are bandied about way too much. These are pretty intense emotions, usually reserved for someone a person is intimately familiar with. As much as I dislike The Felon, I think everyone here would be very hard pressed to fine a single example of my stating "I hate him."

OK, soapbox mode <off>

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

Remember when those "edge" posts always involved Jeff Gordon? Boy, have the times changed.

Those were the good ol' days