[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Quality88

I wanted to see it progress between the two, but NA$CAR wouldn't let it happen. If NA$CAR would have let it progress, the rest of the drivers would have stepped on them.

The biggest thing about Tony and Matt was, Tony runnin his mouth in the shootout about someone gonna get killed with the way they pushed and shoved everyone, then goes out in the 500 and tries to kill Matt.

Cheers to you "Q". I can't forget that incident either. Just when you think someone is turning it around, they come back and prove me wrong.

[tbalt]

Originally Posted by Quality88

Tony runnin his mouth

It appears he might be trying to change the interview outlook after seeing his interview after the Busch incident, or that was Nascar or the coach telling him what to say.

[tbalt]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Cheers to you "Q". I can't forget that incident either. Just when you think someone is turning it around, they come back and prove me wrong.

I knew you wouldn't be able to leave that one alone either.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by tbalt

It appears he might be trying to change the interview outlook after seeing his interview after the Busch incident, or that was Nascar or the coach telling him what to say.

The coach either got on him, or the guys in the trailer proved to him they lied about lettin drivers be themselves this year without fears of fines...
"What happens in the Hauler stays in the Hauler".... indeed

[tbalt]

Originally Posted by Quality88

The coach either got on him, or the guys in the trailer proved to him they lied about lettin drivers be themselves this year without fears of fines...
"What happens in the Hauler stays in the Hauler".... indeed

More then likely it was the hauler.

[wardfan]

well if anybody threw any punches they must have been like Harvick & Montoya last year because I didn't see either of them with a black eye

[bob101]

Originally Posted by wardfan

well if anybody threw any punches they must have been like Harvick & Montoya last year because I didn't see either of them with a black eye

Busch had a little shiner on one eye last night in the pre race interview but he kept that eye away from the camera for the most part.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect someone (anyone) to punch someone else who hits them while in a vehicle on purpose. I don't care if it's a race or not. Maybe that's just me.

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Quality88

What happens on the track happens on the track. If they start beatin and bangin like days of old, it will be good. Now things may escalate, but after a few times of it happenin, the rest of the drivers will step down on those that start gettin out of control. It will go back to fender bendin door bangin action.

Ah ... but there's a difference with what Busch has done, not just once, but twice.

Beatin' and bangin', a.k.a. rubbin's racin', during green flag racing it pretty much the norm, though we may not always see it. But Busch's beatin' and bangin' was during a caution. Heck, last year he almost took out one of Stewart's pit crew guys.

[The Dude]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Ah ... but there's a difference with what Busch has done, not just once, but twice.

Beatin' and bangin', a.k.a. rubbin's racin', during green flag racing it pretty much the norm, though we may not always see it. But Busch's beatin' and bangin' was during a caution. Heck, last year he almost took out one of Stewart's pit crew guys.

I agree, a bit of bumping on the track is fine, a few bumps probably isn't going to hurt anybody besides a few bruises, but when you start bumping each other on pit road and during cautions etc. you're putting a lot of people in danger and should be punished.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Ah ... but there's a difference with what Busch has done, not just once, but twice.

Beatin' and bangin', a.k.a. rubbin's racin', during green flag racing it pretty much the norm, though we may not always see it. But Busch's beatin' and bangin' was during a caution. Heck, last year he almost took out one of Stewart's pit crew guys.

I'm not condonin what big ears did on pit lane. I think the crew should have come out and jerked his ☻☻☻☻☻ out of the car and whipped him. Looks like Tony may have done it in the hauler. Under caution on the track I can accept, cause they are slowed down. I will not condone pit lane beatin and bangin.

[NascarRacer56]

Mr. Busch should be careful, if NASCAR decides to sit him down for a race, he will be in deep trouble.

After all, Penske gave all of his 2007 points to Hornish's car!

[dodging karma]

What Kurt did on pit lane is more acceptable to me then doing it at 180+. No one was in danger this time, I don't have a problem with it. At 180+ there are other drivers at risk because of the pack they usually run in. It was dumb and using your car as a weapon is dangerous but less likely to cause anyone else injury then doing it wide open on the track. If NASCAR drops the hammer I'm fine with it. Just pointing out in this particular case no one else was at risk.

[jks812]

Originally Posted by dodging karma

What Kurt did on pit lane is more acceptable to me then doing it at 180+. No one was in danger this time, I don't have a problem with it. At 180+ there are other drivers at risk because of the pack they usually run in. It was dumb and using your car as a weapon is dangerous but less likely to cause anyone else injury then doing it wide open on the track. If NASCAR drops the hammer I'm fine with it. Just pointing out in this particular case no one else was at risk.

It's not ok to do it on pit road. Maybe this time wasn't as bad since it was practice and not many people on pit road. But race time you have crew members and officials there and that puts them in jeopardy.

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by dodging karma

What Kurt did on pit lane is more acceptable to me then doing it at 180+. No one was in danger this time, I don't have a problem with it. At 180+ there are other drivers at risk because of the pack they usually run in. It was dumb and using your car as a weapon is dangerous but less likely to cause anyone else injury then doing it wide open on the track. If NASCAR drops the hammer I'm fine with it. Just pointing out in this particular case no one else was at risk.

Wow. How can you not have a problem with it. I think you may need to reflect on that idea a bit more. This is not the first time Kurt has done this. And I really don't think he would have held back if there had been other cars there.

On top of the potential danger to other drivers and cars that are not involved in the issues, there is the factor of the needless damage to the cars, that takes time to fix. These guys work pretty much seven days a week as it is, now they are doing repairs that shouldn't be there.

And normally pit road is full of People!!!! You know, the flesh and blood type. Heart beats and breathing type of people!! ANY intentional contact with a car on pit road should result in a suspension. That should be ZERO contact zone, just so you don't get any funky ideas.

Just because there was no one there this time, doesn't mean there won't be next time. Kurt has done this before. Dover, last year, for those with short memories.

How about Kurt goes up to Tony like he has a set, instead of acting like a child. That way, the only folks getting hurt are the two in the incident.

I'm very surprised to see someone have your point of view.

I'd love to have you tell me why it is a good idea to have cars running into each other in anger on pit road.

That would be a great position to see someone try to defend.

[LSC9901]

People die everyday on the public roadways from accidents that are well under the speeds of pit road. I cannot see anywhere that it is OK to ram another car intentionally. I don't care how many safety features the NASCAR drivers have. The guys on pit road have virtually no protection other than the helmet.