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Old 11-15-2007, 05:08 PM
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NASCAR considering separate qualifying sessions

Ok, NASCAR fans of GoTeamsGo NASCAR forum, what say you? Is this an adequate solution to the Top 35 mess?

NASCAR considering separate qualifying sessions
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:13 PM
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Re: NASCAR considering separate qualifying sessions

3ff, I'm not followin here.... are they sayin that the top35 would qualify then the other cars would qualify instead of mixed in like now?
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Re: NASCAR considering separate qualifying sessions

Yep, I believe that's the plan, to have the top 35 qualify together and the ones outside the top 35 qualify together.
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Re: NASCAR considering separate qualifying sessions

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Yep, I believe that's the plan, to have the top 35 qualify together and the ones outside the top 35 qualify together.
Don't like it. It's pointless. It's not doin anything except given the top 35 possible better conditions to qualify better and not have to start in behind any of the one that aren't in the top 35. It's just... stupid.
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Yep, I believe that's the plan, to have the top 35 qualify together and the ones outside the top 35 qualify together.
Nope! Hate it! Hate it! Hate it! There was a thread similar to this several weeks ago. The Chosen will still be the Chosen. That, my friend, is the epicenter of it all. Qualify on speed. Period! Segregation is segregation. It's still the "go or go-homers" no matter how France spins it.
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Re: NASCAR considering separate qualifying sessions

Ok, NASCAR fans of GoTeamsGo NASCAR forum, what say you? Is this an adequate solution to the Top 35 mess?

Nah. This is weak. It does serve towards making all of the potential "go homers" make their attempt under close to same time of day/track conditions which does even things out somewhat, but nah --- still weak.

Wonder what the approach would be under this plan in the event of a rained out qualifying? Top "go homers" make the race without a qualifying effort? Any guess a good one at this point.
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Re: NASCAR considering separate qualifying sessions

What was wrong with the way they did things 5 years ago?
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Re: NASCAR considering separate qualifying sessions

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Wonder what the approach would be under this plan in the event of a rained out qualifying? Top "go homers" make the race without a qualifying effort? Any guess a good one at this point.
Exactly what I was wondering as I was reading through the posts. What if the top 35 qualify and then it rains. I'll still stand by my guns and say if you are one of the 43 fastest ... then you get to race to the checkered. Not fast enough ??? Pack up the hauler and go home. When are they going to get it ???
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Re: NASCAR considering separate qualifying sessions

I personally love F1 qualifying, 3 heats, elimination, everyone running at the same time. I think it is fun to watch, and can be done quickly.

It would be interesting to see NASCAR try it.
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Re: NASCAR considering separate qualifying sessions

I guess since they won't get rid of the top 35 rule, this might be a decent change. At least all out of the 35 qualify at the same time under the same conditions. They should let them go first and then if it rains take the top 7 of those and the champ provisional and set the field that way.
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Don't like it. It's pointless. It's not doin anything except given the top 35 possible better conditions to qualify better and not have to start in behind any of the one that aren't in the top 35. It's just... stupid.
It's not pointless...the cars that need to qualify on speed (outside the Top 35) are currently mixed throughout the field on qualifying day. Changes in cloud cover, sunshine, track temperature, etc. make a big difference on lap speeds. What NASCAR is doing is leveling the playing field so that the "outside Top 35" racers will qualify right after each other so that track condition changes are minimalized.
With that said, I still hate the Top 35 rule.
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I personally love F1 qualifying, 3 heats, elimination, everyone running at the same time. I think it is fun to watch, and can be done quickly.

It would be interesting to see NASCAR try it.
Although it's in interesting idea, all of the F1 cars that qualify compete so it still does not solve the top 35 issue. All that would do is raise the costs of the teams and not change anything for those outside the top 35.

Bottom line, the top 35 needs to go away. We know it won't in the near future so AT LEAST this allows the go or go home teams to compete on a more level playing field. So in that respect I would support the decision.
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It's not pointless...the cars that need to qualify on speed (outside the Top 35) are currently mixed throughout the field on qualifying day. Changes in cloud cover, sunshine, track temperature, etc. make a big difference on lap speeds. What NASCAR is doing is leveling the playing field so that the "outside Top 35" racers will qualify right after each other so that track condition changes are minimalized.
With that said, I still hate the Top 35 rule.
I don't see how this levels the playing field at all. Track changes are part of the risk of qualifying, Top-35 or not.

The ONLY way to level the playing field is to eliminate the Top-35.
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Re: NASCAR considering separate qualifying sessions

it might work if they eliminate the impound race rule. otherwise the go-or-go-homers will still go with qualifying trim and be at a disadvantage because the Chosen would qualify in race trim...

still, it doesn't fix the underlying problem: the fastest cars are not in the race.

eliminate the Chosen (except for garage space and hauler entry) and set 40 fastest cars into the race based on speed (yes, 40! eliminate the provisionals also!!!)
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Re: NASCAR considering separate qualifying sessions

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It's not pointless...the cars that need to qualify on speed (outside the Top 35) are currently mixed throughout the field on qualifying day. Changes in cloud cover, sunshine, track temperature, etc. make a big difference on lap speeds. What NASCAR is doing is leveling the playing field so that the "outside Top 35" racers will qualify right after each other so that track condition changes are minimalized.
With that said, I still hate the Top 35 rule.
You want to level the playin field... okay... let's level it. The fastest 43 make the dance the rest go home. Done... there's your level playin field.
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