[LSC9901]

UNOFFICIAL Sprint Cup CLASSIC - the OLD way - Driver Points Standings
[after Talladega, race 33 of 36]:
pos, car#, driver, points, behind
1) #48-Jimmie Johnson, 4752
2) #14-Tony Stewart, 4745, -7
3) #24-Jeff Gordon, 4673, -72
4) #5-Mark Martin, 4315, -430
5) #11-Denny Hamlin, 4271, -474
6) #42-Juan Montoya, 4260, -485
7) #2-Kurt Busch, 4248, -497
#16-Greg Biffle, 4157, -588
9) #39-Ryan Newman, 4118, -627
10) #9-Kasey Kahne, 4094, 651
11) #99-Carl Edwards, 4091 -654
12) #18-Kyle Busch, 4043, -702
13) #17-Matt Kenseth, 3986, -759
14) #33-Clint Bowyer, 3932, -813
15) #83-Brian Vickers, 3890, -855
16) #00-David Reutimann, 3854, -891
(11-1-2009)

Current Points System

UNOFFICIAL Sprint Cup CHASE Standings
[after Talladega, Chase race 7 of 10; Season race 33 of 36]:
pos, car#, driver, points, behind, [wins], race finish
1) #48-Jimmie Johnson [6 wins], 6248, finished 8th
2) #5-Mark Martin [5 wins], 6064, -184
3) #24-Jeff Gordon [1 win], 6056, -192
4) #42-Juan Montoya, 6009, -239
5) #14-Tony Stewart [4 wins], 5969, -279
6) #2-Kurt Busch [1 win], 5936, -312
7) #16-Greg Biffle, 5908, -340
#39-Ryan Newman, 5846, -402
9) #9-Kasey Kahne [2 wins], 5834, -414
10) #99-Carl Edwards, 5811, -437
11) #11-Denny Hamlin [3 wins], 5800, -448
12) #83-Brian Vickers [1 win], 5692, -556

[BrianFranceFan]

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[Quality88]

Look at that... the old system is much closer....

[Robertdjr]

Originally Posted by Quality88

Look at that... the old system is much closer....

Yes indeed! JJ would be ahead of Smoke by only 7 points and ahead of Gordon by 72. Now that's a chase!

[kkfan91]

well...speaking as a kahne fan i like the chase

[Stewart Fan]

Yeah I vote we either go back to the old system or re do the chase so one driver(not only talking about JJ) won't win every year.

[BrianFranceFan]

Whether its a 7 point lead...or 184...JJ would win either way. He is just to dang good.

[kerribear17]

ugh don't remind us - i dread the last few races

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by BrianFranceFan

Whether its a 7 point lead...or 184...JJ would win either way. He is just to dang good.

Actually you can't prove that. 7 point lead is a major difference to 184, it makes you race different, and puts you in possibility of being caught up in someone else's mess.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by BrianFranceFan

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Exactly what is the question ? Under the original points system JJ would still be in the lead but not by such an insane margin.

[oncea3fan]

we don't use the old points , so it's a moot point!

[Bassdogs]

Why does this keep coming up. "Could'a, Would'a, Should'a" talk is mute! It is what it is! We are operating under the chase format! The old point system is just that "the old system"! Why don't you go back to the old old [2 generations back] system or even farther? You may eventually find one that puts someone in front of JJ.

JIMMY, JIMMY, JIMMY, JIMMY, JIMMY, JIMMY, JIMMY, JIMMY!!

CAN YOU SAY "FOUR -PEAT"!!!

Come on guys, I've heard more realistic arguments from diehard College BB fans when their school doesn't win the final 4. As racing fan professionals, one would expect more.

Lets try this approach. Name the top 3 things that you would do for next year to keep JJ from winning again.

1]
2]
3]

[BrianFranceFan]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Exactly what is the question ? Under the original points system JJ would still be in the lead but not by such an insane margin.

My question was whats the point of this post? I mean..we are reminded day in and day out of how the old point system would be better. But...we run the chase format, so what ever the standings would have looked like back then mean nothin!

[loco4pablo]

I agree Bass.... As much as I hate the chase format, it's what they are using so it is what it is... Anyone remember in 2003 when Matt the Brat won it with 2 races left in the season and he only had 1 win!! The fans raised hell which is why they changed the format. NASCAR can never make people happy.

Here are the facts concerning the chase and old points system. With only 3 races left in the season here are the point leads that the leader had

2008- Chase + 183 points Old way +98 points
2007- Chase +9 points Old way +439 points
2006- Chase +26 points Old way- +78 points
2005- Chase +43 points Old way +255 points
2004- Chase +59 points Old way +42 points

So what's the difference??? I will say this thou...If the chase had never been created and we kept the old system here is who our champions would have been:
2004- Gordon (Busch chase winner)
2005- Stewart (Stewart chase winner)
2006- Johnson (johnson chase winner)
2007- Gordon (johnson chase winner)
2008- Edwards (johnson chase winner)

[OregonSHRFan]

Originally Posted by Bassdogs

Lets try this approach. Name the top 3 things that you would do for next year to keep JJ from winning again.

1]
2]
3]

Now THIS should be fun!!
1) give Chad to Jr for the year
2) Make the #48 run on 7 cylinders every race
3) Dont allow JJ to have his UniBrow trimmed ... it will grow so much and get in his eye making it difficult to drive