[Bassdogs]

This week we witnessed the 2nd near miss on the final lap as a wrecked car sat on the front stretch as the field came out of turn 4. The yellow flew at the very last second and too late to insure the middle or end of the pack could "woooooo" it down and miss the stalled car. I understand the desire to race to the checker, but when there is a crash on the track where the screaming pack will have to pass before or near the finish line; WHAT I WITNESSED THIS WEEK IS INSANE!!

What does the forum think??

[jks812]

I read about it. I think any time they have a car turned in the track and the pack coming that way, they are stupid for not throwing the caution. Maybe when that car gets broadsided by about 5 cars, they'll rethink not bringing the caution out.

[kkfan91]

.......well at least they are being consistant

however they were about 4 wide heading right towards him until mears jumped back in line

[nascaraddict]

The rule book is a "here today, gone tomorrow" senario with NASCAR. Just flip a coin what happens from week to week.

[Robertdjr]

Originally Posted by Bassdogs

This week we witnessed the 2nd near miss on the final lap as a wrecked car sat on the front stretch as the field came out of turn 4. The yellow flew at the very last second and too late to insure the middle or end of the pack could "woooooo" it down and miss the stalled car. I understand the desire to race to the checker, but when there is a crash on the track where the screaming pack will have to pass before or near the finish line; WHAT I WITNESSED THIS WEEK IS INSANE!!

What does the forum think??

I agree, Bassdogs. NASCAR was more concerned with entertainment than safety.

[loco4pablo]

Andretti's defends NASCAR's late call: #34-John Andretti defended NASCAR's decision not to throw a caution when he couldn't move his disabled car from the finish line at Martinsville Speedway on Sunday. Andretti crashed on the frontstretch during the next to last lap of the race, and NASCAR apparently believed he could move his car out of the way in time for the field to race its way across the finish line. Because he couldn't, the caution wasn't called until the cars were coming out of the final turn and quickly closing in on Andretti. "It wasn't a bad call," Andretti said in a statement on Monday. "To me, I wasn't in a great position, but I wasn't in an overly dangerous position. NASCAR focuses on the race itself, and they want to see the winner come across the finish line. It's probably the call I would've made. I would've gotten out of the way if I could've. But I had a couple of issues. The car was too damaged." It's second time since the start of the Chase for the Sprint Cup championship that NASCAR waited until the last moment to call a caution for an accident near the start/finish line. A similar incident occurred last month in the Chase opener at New Hampshire. Race-winner Denny Hamlin said he thought Andretti's car did not pose a threat to the other competitors and NASCAR made the right call.(Associated Press)(10-27-2009)

[kkfan91]

Originally Posted by loco4pablo

Andretti's defends NASCAR's late call: #34-John Andretti defended NASCAR's decision not to throw a caution when he couldn't move his disabled car from the finish line at Martinsville Speedway on Sunday. Andretti crashed on the frontstretch during the next to last lap of the race, and NASCAR apparently believed he could move his car out of the way in time for the field to race its way across the finish line. Because he couldn't, the caution wasn't called until the cars were coming out of the final turn and quickly closing in on Andretti. "It wasn't a bad call," Andretti said in a statement on Monday. "To me, I wasn't in a great position, but I wasn't in an overly dangerous position. NASCAR focuses on the race itself, and they want to see the winner come across the finish line. It's probably the call I would've made. I would've gotten out of the way if I could've. But I had a couple of issues. The car was too damaged." It's second time since the start of the Chase for the Sprint Cup championship that NASCAR waited until the last moment to call a caution for an accident near the start/finish line. A similar incident occurred last month in the Chase opener at New Hampshire. Race-winner Denny Hamlin said he thought Andretti's car did not pose a threat to the other competitors and NASCAR made the right call.(Associated Press)(10-27-2009)

actually he was fine when he was down by the wall but when he tried to move he got in a bad place. Now if we wreck in turn 2 at talladega can we go back to the line because their it would work as its so far and they would be out of the way

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Bassdogs

This week we witnessed the 2nd near miss on the final lap as a wrecked car sat on the front stretch as the field came out of turn 4. The yellow flew at the very last second and too late to insure the middle or end of the pack could "woooooo" it down and miss the stalled car. I understand the desire to race to the checker, but when there is a crash on the track where the screaming pack will have to pass before or near the finish line; WHAT I WITNESSED THIS WEEK IS INSANE!!

What does the forum think??

I haven't complained about this subject 500 times so I guess I get a pass...

The problem that I see, Bass, isn't necessarily whether Andretti was in or out of harms way. (The way Mears, I believe it was, came off of T4, my vote would be for "In") I just doubt NA__AR's credibility in throwing caution flags. In the earlier stages of the race they'll throw a caution for debris caused by a seagull crapping on the track. Yet, in the latter stages, they'll let a driver and car sit dead in the water, at the start/finish line "Because they don't want to influence the race's finish." (Like throwing a phony caution in the last fifteen laps when one driver is about a lap ahead of 2nd place isn't "Affecting the race's finish???)

If NA__AR wanted a close, green finish, why didn't they throw the flag when Andretti spun, then have one of their "Green/White/Checkered finishes after they got Andretti's car off the track?

To me NA__AR concern for entertainment trumps driver safety and credibility.

[Stewart Fan]

Originally Posted by loco4pablo

Andretti's defends NASCAR's late call: #34-John Andretti defended NASCAR's decision not to throw a caution when he couldn't move his disabled car from the finish line at Martinsville Speedway on Sunday. Andretti crashed on the frontstretch during the next to last lap of the race, and NASCAR apparently believed he could move his car out of the way in time for the field to race its way across the finish line. Because he couldn't, the caution wasn't called until the cars were coming out of the final turn and quickly closing in on Andretti. "It wasn't a bad call," Andretti said in a statement on Monday. "To me, I wasn't in a great position, but I wasn't in an overly dangerous position. NASCAR focuses on the race itself, and they want to see the winner come across the finish line. It's probably the call I would've made. I would've gotten out of the way if I could've. But I had a couple of issues. The car was too damaged." It's second time since the start of the Chase for the Sprint Cup championship that NASCAR waited until the last moment to call a caution for an accident near the start/finish line. A similar incident occurred last month in the Chase opener at New Hampshire. Race-winner Denny Hamlin said he thought Andretti's car did not pose a threat to the other competitors and NASCAR made the right call.(Associated Press)(10-27-2009)

Lets see how John feels about that when he's in the hospital with his neck broke after someone hits him in the drivers door going 160+

[kkfan91]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

I haven't complained about this subject 500 times so I guess I get a pass...

The problem that I see, Bass, isn't necessarily whether Andretti was in or out of harms way. (The way Mears, I believe it was, came off of T4, my vote would be for "In") I just doubt NA__AR's credibility in throwing caution flags. In the earlier stages of the race they'll throw a caution for debris caused by a seagull crapping on the track. Yet, in the latter stages, they'll let a driver and car sit dead in the water, at the start/finish line "Because they don't want to influence the race's finish." (Like throwing a phony caution in the last fifteen laps when one driver is about a lap ahead of 2nd place isn't "Affecting the race's finish???)

If NA__AR wanted a close, green finish, why didn't they throw the flag when Andretti spun, then have one of their "Green/White/Checkered finishes after they got Andretti's car off the track?

To me NA__AR concern for entertainment trumps driver safety and credibility.

the solution....

MULTIPLE GREEN WHITE CHECKERDS

[Stewart Fan]

Originally Posted by kkfan91

the solution....

MULTIPLE GREEN WHITE CHECKERDS

Did you see that truck race at IRP I believe it was a few years ago? They had like 6 Green White Checkerds lol

[kkfan91]

Originally Posted by Stewart Fan

Did you see that truck race at IRP I believe it was a few years ago? They had like 6 Green White Checkerds lol

yeah but it finished under green and only 1 truck was upside down

[Stewart Fan]

Originally Posted by kkfan91

yeah but it finished under green and only 1 truck was upside down

Actually I think it was just one on his side riding the wall wasn't it?

[nascaraddict]

I know that they could'nt go on forever it. People would run out of gas... Brian France would screw it up for Jimmie Johnson winning....

But they do have to have some cut off point. I say have something that's SET IN STONE. And have no one week there's this many laps of caution avalible for Green / White's, and that week, there's another. So then noone call foul.