[azrael492]

I don't think Ben is as good as he thinks he is, but I would not go so far as to say Batch would be better. I remember seeing him play in Detroit. It wasn't pretty.

[Lefty Noob]

Well, I didn't say he'd so better - only just as good. Put Ben on those Detroit teams and he'd look pretty lousy too.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Well, I didn't say he'd so better - only just as good. Put Ben on those Detroit teams and he'd look pretty lousy too.

I agree. Overrated. I mean he is okay...but we all know he is backed up by that D....Throw one away, no problem, the D might hold them anyway.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

There is no player in any sport that falls into that category. Ben has his shinning moments but irreplaceable he's not.

Hows about The Intimidator?