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Old 05-15-2006, 11:26 AM
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Pirates Hit New Low

Check out the article from the PGH Post Gazette today. This is a day after the Bucs loss to the Marlins to give them the worst record in the NL...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06135/690232-63.stm
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Old 05-15-2006, 04:46 PM
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Re: Pirates Hit New Low

We all know the Pirates won't be included in this year's playoff picture. They actually had some good players back in the day. It is too bad that they got rid of Brian Giles, Aramis Ramirez and Kris Benson.
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"I wouldn't say it's the high point, that's for sure," first baseman Craig Wilson said. "I wouldn't say any of us is playing up to what we expected. And it's not just this series. It's the year to date."

Wilson is one of three players who has been with the Pirates five years or longer. The other two offered similar views, although they, like Wilson, would not pinpoint yesterday as a low point.
"There is no low point," shortstop Jack Wilson said. "The moment you admit a low point, that's when your season is pretty much over. You might as well go home. There's a lot of baseball to be played."


Aah, denial is so bitter-sweet...I got Jack Wilson on my team...he better not give up...
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Its almost to the point where I can't stand reading about the Buccos anymore, and I sure as hell can't stomach watching them half the time. They are horrible. The pitchers and the managers bear the most blame. The guys on the mound are the ones giving up eight runs to Florida, while Tracy isn't making any moves to help the struggling lineup. I knew firing Lloyd was a mistake...
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Its almost to the point where I can't stand reading about the Buccos anymore, and I sure as hell can't stomach watching them half the time. They are horrible. The pitchers and the managers bear the most blame. The guys on the mound are the ones giving up eight runs to Florida, while Tracy isn't making any moves to help the struggling lineup. I knew firing Lloyd was a mistake...
Okay lets play...name three ways to quickly rebuild the Pirates...Lefty you start...
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Old 05-15-2006, 07:37 PM
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Wow... three quick ways to rebuilt the Pirates? That's like trying to use duct tape to prevent Chernobyl. The truth is the Bucs need completely blown up, from the front office on down, and only a few guys (Bay, the Wilsons, Duke, Torres come to mind; there may be others) would survive.

But I digress. I'll play your game. Step #1 would have to be to fire Jim Tracy and David Littlefield; replace Littlefield with a Billy Beane alum. We need some Moneyball in Pittsburgh. Give us the cheapest over .500 team possible, at least for the time being. Tracy's replacement. Hmm... we'd need a guy in the mold of Cleveland's Eric Wedge, I think. A promising minor league skipper who can come in and mold young players.
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Old 05-15-2006, 08:50 PM
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I don't think Tracy is the answer just yet. Do you guys think he could win if he was the coach of the Yankees?

At the same time I do think that some blame rests on him, and he needs to take a strong look at himself and his staff...
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Give us the cheapest over .500 team possible, at least for the time being.
So does that mean trade away some of the veterans for solid prospects that are ready to start/...whodo you jettison at this stage?
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Well, after thinking it over, I'd probably have to begrudgingly part with Craig Wilson. I like Craig, but he has value, and we need to look ahead here. Oliver Perez should go; he needs to start over somewhere else, and with luck we could get some prospects for him. Keep Casey, jettison Burnitz (provided he has any trade value whatsoever).

That's my guess, but that's why I'd want one of those SABR guys coming in. I'm not usually a big fan of sabrmetrics, but in Pittsburgh, they have limited funds and they need to field a competitive team yesterday to try and keep/lure back the fan base, most of whom like me are already rolling their eyes and thinking, "Here we go again..."
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Old 05-21-2006, 01:59 PM
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I can't believe Casey is even being thought of as trade bait; let's wait and see what the guy can do before we start sending him up the river...
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