[blueandwhite]

Playing him previously, i have always thought he complained too much about other players to the refs, so i do agree - i thought after the last game Leafs played him and the penguins, why does he think he is untouchable?
you don't see that in some of the other great young guys coming up like Staal or ovechkin or malkin. they just play through it.

[Phils20]

Exactly. That is just how I see it.

[Oli Jokinen!]

Phils took the words out of my mind and fingers. He can't play at the Gretzky level if he doesn't score the goals. Last year I think people you think are average had more goals.

[Oli Jokinen!]

Oh yea. Vanek had more goals than him last year. And Vanek is an average player I would say.