Originally Posted by ineptOUdefense

Lets see.....OU had first downs at the 2, 3, and 7 yard lines and failed to score touchdowns. Their defense gave up two touchdowns in the last 1:12, and they couldn't make a field goal at the end. They also had poor clock management. OU has no one to blame but themselves.

Great teams don't put themselves in positions where the officials can have an impact on the game. And if you blame the officials for losing a close game, you must blame them when you win. There were bad calls both ways, like the multiple plays that OU got off after the play clock expired, or the faux Jonathan Stewart fumble. Bottom line, Oregon still had to make plays to win the game regardless of the officiating. Oregon made those plays, and OU failed to stop it.

Despite the mistakes they did make, the bottom line is that OU did enough to win the game. When a referee takes the ball from you after you recover it and gives it to the other team to score a touchdown, there isn't much you can do. The refs were going to give Oregon as many chances as they needed to win the game. I couldn't agree more with the statement "Great teams don't put themselves in positions where officials can have an impact on the game"; that happens when the officials are chosen to officiate the game.

[Lefty Noob]

Despite the mistakes they did make, the bottom line is that OU did enough to win the game.

No, they didn't, or they would've won the game. Doing enough to win is a fluid situation. The call stunk, yes. But you know what? Those guys on the sideline need to get over that, buckle down and do their job. Nothing changes the fact that they were the victims of the bad call - what changes is that they still could have won the game, in spite of it, and didn't get the job done.

When a referee takes the ball from you after you recover it and gives it to the other team to score a touchdown, there isn't much you can do.

Except prevent Oregon from scoring that touchdown, defensively. I get so sick of people using bad calls or other similar misfortunes as an excuse for losing. Many Cubs fans to this day blame Bartman for costing them a shot at the World Series, even though there were countless opportunities for the team to man-up and win in spite of what happened. Many Raiders fans still moan about the tuck rule game, but they still had the fourth quarter and OT to win the game. And the same thing applies here.

Did the Sooners get a bad call? Yes, no doubt. But if they do a few things a little better on their own, a block here, better coverage there - guess what? They still wind up winning the game. So everyone, Sooner fan or otherwise, can harp on the bad calls all they want. The bottom line is Oklahoma still had a chance to win the game with their own hands and were unsuccessful.

So everyone, Sooner fan or otherwise, can harp on the bad calls all they want.

Thanks for the permission

I'm a realist. I don't need a bunch of people telling me I'm right to know I'm right. If you want to continue be be redundant by repeating the same crap over and over, don't let me stop you. I don't need your agreement to back me up--I've got the game footage.

You are only looking back at what happened after the bum call. It's the very existence of a need to come back and win the game which shouldn't have been there. You keep saying OU should have taken control of the situation they were put in, but don't even realize that they did. Are you forgetting about the BS pass interference call that was disproven twice by a replay? Are you inept to the fact that Oregon was lined up offsides on the FG block? Did you not see Oregon's entire sideline come onto the field while the ball was still in play? Those are things I could have used to back me up in this argument but I, unlike you, have a sense for the irrelevance of anything that happened after the onside kick. Honestly, I don't know you or anyone else here. I have no personal attachments. I couldn't care less if you want to continue this nonsense about how it was OU's fault. If you want to be wrong, I won't stop you. I can't make you admit it, but I can show the game footage to anyone who thinks they are too good to admit that poor officiating costed OU the game.

Have a nice life; I'm done wasting my time with your stubborness.

[rmjvol]

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Thanks, Ross

[pbmax542]

By Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com
ESPN.com - NCF - Separation Saturday: Upsets, statements, controversy
On the day after Separation Saturday, the fans of Oklahoma and LSU are convinced that the officiating crews of their respective losses have been separated from their senses, eyesight and morals.

Sooner fans are apoplectic over the onside kick call that officials awarded to Oregon with Oklahoma leading, 33-27, and 1:09 to play. Video replay shows an Oregon player touched the ball before it traveled 10 yards. It also shows that Allen Patrick of Oklahoma recovered the kick, although an official on the field blew the play dead before Patrick fell on the ball.

The Ducks, awarded possession, drove for the winning touchdown to beat the Sooners 34-33. The Pac-10 has informed Oklahoma that it will have the results of its review on Tuesday. Pac-10 supervisor of officials Verle Sorgen did not return a phone call from ESPN.com.

In most interconference games, the visiting team brings officials from its league with them. The Pac-10, however, never adopted this policy. Pac-10 officials call games at Pac-10 schools. The policy did not make the league look good on Saturday.

[pbmax542]

Watch this. The worst call I have ever seen.
YouTube - oregon did not recover the ball

This one's good too, but the first one is better
YouTube - The officiating that changed my philosophy on life.

[Kasey Kahne 9 fan]

YOu still could of won. You could of stoped us on one of our drives. Or you could of recovered the ball on that Onside kick. You could of got a touchdown instead of running two yards. You could of blocked better on that field goal. You just keep blamming the officials when you could of beat us anyway

[Kasey Kahne 9 fan]

Originally Posted by pbmax542

Watch this. The worst call I have ever seen.
YouTube - oregon did not recover the ball

This one's good too, but the first one is better
YouTube - The officiating that changed my philosophy on life.

now you have a point thats instesting but I think the oregon player is already on his knees when he gets the ball

[rmjvol]

Sure looks like the Ducks were given a huge gift on that kick.

[Lefty Noob]

Yeah, it was definitely one of the worst calls I've seen in a long time.

But, as I've been saying, the game was still winnable. The Sooners just didn't get the job done. Let me share with everyone an excerpt from an article by AP writer Ralph D. Russo.

RUSSO on FOOTBALL: Feeling robbed by the refs? Get over it - NCAAF - Yahoo! Sports
By Ralph D. Russo, Associated Press

The game is already going down as one of the most infamous in Sooners history. Highway robbery!

Really?

On three occasions, the Sooners drove inside the Oregon 10 and settled for field goals. The Ducks piled up 501 yards against an Oklahoma defense that was supposed to be one of the best in the country but is now ranked last in the Big 12.

Even Adrian Peterson knew the Sooners were in trouble if they had to rely on their defense to make a big stop.

"I was just praying we would get that onside kick," Peterson said. "Once we didn't get it, things got really ugly from there."

How about this, Oklahoma? Punch in couple of those red-zone opportunities or cover someone every now and then instead.

Every team occasionally gets hosed by a bad call. Those who have the heart of a champion deal with the adversity and overcome. The Sooners had the chance and couldn't execute. They go down in the books with the Bartman Cubs and the Tuck Rule Raiders as teams that will forever use an unfortunate incident or a blown call to mask their own ability to overcome obstacles and triumph down the stretch, when their backs were against the wall.

[Kasey Kahne 9 fan]

No offence to anyone its been three days it was a good game you made a lot a lot of mistake early in the game like when you were on the 2 and just kept getting pushed back on tstupid peneltys that if you scored right there touchdown you would of won or not stoping at the end you could of stoped us on two drives. You didn't block well enough to get a final field goal so instead of blaming the a officials like cry babys just looking for some sort of an excuse for a late lapse ( no offence ) take the loss we won you lost so just take it like men( or women )

[AZAggie]

Again, I don't disagree that OU should have probably stopped the Ducks after that ridiculious ruling anyway.However, my point is this: In the era of instant replay review, that call should have never been made and OU should have never been put in that situation to begin with. There is simply no excuse to miss a call of that magnitude when the video evidence overwhelming shows the on field ruling to be wrong. If they are going to ignore the evidence presented to them, then they should just do away with instant replay altogether.

I know the outcome has been decided and there is nothing that can be done, however, there needs to be some accountability here. I am sure that instead of that, we will get some lame excuse fromthe PAC10 administration.

Any fan of college football, regardless of their affiliation, should be embarassed by that officiating crew.

[AZAggie]

The official admits here he missed the call. Can't get any clearer than that. He should resign. Again, there is absolutely no excuse to miss something like this in the day and age of instant replay.

I also wouldn't plan a trip to Oklahoma any time soon if I were him.

FOX Sports - COLLEGE FOOTBALL - Instant replay official gets death threat, considers resigning


Instant replay official gets death threat
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) - The instant replay official whose failure to overturn a bad call led to a narrow victory for Oregon over Oklahoma said he feels like he is under siege after receiving menacing phone calls and a death threat.

Gordon Riese said he would make a decision soon about whether to finish the season, or even whether to return next year.
"I'm struggling with it," Riese said in an interview at his home. "I feel so bad I missed that call, it's driving me crazy."
A former college baseball pitcher in the 1960s who was inducted into the Portland State Hall of Fame in 1997, Riese said he never played football but always enjoyed the game during 28 years as a Pacific-10 Conference official.
"I loved it, I absolutely loved it," Riese said.
But that was before he became an instant replay official.
"I've felt much, much more pressure as an instant replay official than I ever did on the field," Riese said.
He said the equipment is not as sophisticated as NFL replay equipment, and does not allow the official to freeze the frame. But Riese lays the blame on himself after replays showed that an onside kick was touched by an Oregon player before it traveled the required 10 yards. The Ducks went on to score the go-ahead touchdown.
"I can't sleep, I can't eat, my blood pressure is skyrocketing," Riese said, looking haggard and worn as he sat on the front porch of his house.
His wife is a registered nurse, and has been checking his blood pressure every four hours, he said.
Riese said he has stopped answering the phone, and police are investigating the threatening calls while keeping an eye on his neighborhood.
"They not only threatened me, they threatened my wife and kids," Riese said.
Riese has endured plenty of physical pain in his career. He said a torn rotator cuff ended his pitching days, all the ligaments in his right knee were torn when he was hit by an Oregon defensive back at Autzen Stadium in a 1984 game against Washington State, and he separated a collarbone when he was run over by opposing linemen trying to block each other in the 2005 Fiesta Bowl.
The knee and the collarbone still bother him, occasionally, he said. But not as much as his ruling from the booth last Saturday. "I don't know how to deal with it," he said. "I guess it's just one of those things."

[Lefty Noob]

One thing I'm sure we can all agree one - anyone who sends this guy death threats is taking their football WAY too seriously. The dude made a mistake, and he admits it. We all make mistakes. There is no reason he should be fearing for his wellbeing today over something as cosmically insignificant as a football game.

[cjg11582]

I have no sympathy for a team that ruined what could have been great national title games for two straight years in 2003 and 2004.