[Lefty Noob]

Once again, the best punter in the history of the game, Ray Guy, was snubbed by the Hall of Fame. Your thoughts?
Green, Monk, Dean, Tippett, Zimmerman, Emmitt Thomas elected to Hall of Fame - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Look if Ray Guy can't get in, might as well just say that the Hall is really not open to kickers...tragedy really.

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Look if Ray Guy can't get in, might as well just say that the Hall is really not open to kickers...tragedy really.

That's the whole truth and nothin' but the truth.

[ThePundit]

I guess punting isn't a big part of football.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by ThePundit

I guess punting isn't a big part of football.

Get rid of the position if there is no way to give it any recognition...I mean the Hall is basically saying..."Hey we do not acknowledge punters or kicker as really being part of the game."...

Tell me that the best punter in the game doesn't merit it more than say the 25 best receiver in the game etc...cause I tell ya, Monk doesn't even make my top 25 list.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Get rid of the position if there is no way to give it any recognition...I mean the Hall is basically saying..."Hey we do not acknowledge punters or kicker as really being part of the game."...

i agree ...... Guy may be the best ever at his position ..... if that doesnt get you in to the Hall then just what the heck does

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by simple simon

i agree ...... Guy may be the best ever at his position ..... if that doesnt get you in to the Hall then just what the heck does

Heck if we all can see it at this site and we disagree on plenty what is keeping voters from acting on it?

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by simple simon

i agree ...... Guy may be the best ever at his position ..... if that doesnt get you in to the Hall then just what the heck does

Your guess is as good as mine. Obviously, it's because he's a punter, but... COME ON!

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Your guess is as good as mine. Obviously, it's because he's a punter, but... COME ON!

I thought, especially in Guy's case, that he was a football player that also punted...the man could play DB...and even throw the ball as I recall. So basically for the Hall, Punters are not football players...which begs the question, "What are they then?"

[legend]

Folks, I always say the name of the game is FOOTball! The kicking is as important, if not more so, than any aspect of the game. Guy should have been in the second he was eligible, and I'm starting to think a guy like Feagles should be there, as important as he is to his team with his record number of kicks inside the 20. The coaches and players know how vital field position is, as was evidenced yesterday. Gotham, Monk was prolific but you are right. His name shouldn't even come up when talking about the sport's best. It would be the equivalent of putting Paul O'Neill in Cooperstown.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by legend

Folks, I always say the name of the game is FOOTball! The kicking is as important, if not more so, than any aspect of the game. Guy should have been in the second he was eligible, and I'm starting to think a guy like Feagles should be there, as important as he is to his team with his record number of kicks inside the 20. The coaches and players know how vital field position is, as was evidenced yesterday. Gotham, Monk was prolific but you are right. His name shouldn't even come up when talking about the sport's best. It would be the equivalent of putting Paul O'Neill in Cooperstown.

Hey, we argee on Monk...

And after 20 odd years in the league, Feagle merits consideration...but not before Guy of course.

[Tuck4Bama]

With carrer stats like this how can he not be in the Hall Of Fame?
Ray Guy Official Site

[Gotham Dark Knight]

NFL 75th ANNIVERSARY ALL-TIME TEAM MEMBER
(Chosen by a selection committee of media and league personnel in 1994.)

SUPER BOWL SILVER ANNIVERSARY TEAM MEMBER
(Chosen by the fans in 1990 prior to Super Bowl XXV.)

1970's ALL-DECADE TEAM MEMBER
(All-Decade teams chosen by the Hall of Fame Selection Committee members.)

ALL-TIME NFL TEAM MEMBER
(Chosen by members of the Hall of Fame Selection Committee in 2000 for the book NFL’s GREATEST)

AFL-NFL 1960-1984 ALL-STAR TEAM MEMBER
(Chosen by the Hall of Fame Selection Committee in 1985.)

"He's the first punter you could look at and say, He won games." ” ---
Joe Horrigan - Pro Football Hall of Fame Historian

-First Pure Punter Drafted in the 1st Round (23rd player overall).
-Played in seven Pro Bowls (six consecutively) - most ever for a punter!
-Played in seven AFC Championship Games.
-Played in three Super Bowl wins punting 14 times (tied for 3rd for most Super Bowl punts in a career) including a 41.9 average (3rd highest average recorded for a career).

-Led NFL in Punting three times.
-NFL Postseason Record for most punts in a career with 111 punts.
-NFL Postseason Record for Highest Punting Average in a game with 56.0 average.
(This record includes a 71yard punt - the 3rd Longest Postseason punt in NFL history).

"He was an expert in the arcane area of "hang time," the precious time the ball was in the air, allowing the coverage to assemble around the returner. If you accept the idea in physics that there is only so much energy to propel a kick, Guy was willing to sacrifice distance for height." -- Greg Garber, Author of "Inside Football" -- Award-Winning Investigative Sports Journalist and ESPN Football Commentator


-Pro Bowl Record for most punts in a career with 33 punts.

-First Pure Punter Nominated for Pro Football Hall of Fame.


Some things really stick on when it coems to Ray Guy...Call it the "Hall of Shame" if this GUY does not make it in...