[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by ThePundit

There was no choice for "who cares"...

Get with the program...in this forum we care about Vick and Dogs, and 1-15 teams, and punters making the Hall and Barkley in speedos...so yeah...we care!...

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Get with the program...in this forum we care about Vick and Dogs, and 1-15 teams, and punters making the Hall and Barkley in speedos...so yeah...we care!...

I don't know about Barkley in speedos!!

[Bette]

No, I dont think so either. He was great for a while, but I think it should be for a longer period of time.
And simon, they arent being considered for the hof, because they (your pats) havent talked about retiring yet.
And the New England tight ends arent undefeated, their team is. The New E. te's just dont match up with Witten.

[vincesanity82]

Let me correct all you who say no

13 seasons
7 Pro Bowls
1999 Def player of the year
A vital role in the Bucs 2002 Super Bowl Championship
He had 96 1/2 career sacks, former Minnesota Vikings defensive tackle John Randle is the only interior lineman with more sacks.


Like or hate the man he will most likely be 1st ballot HOF..

[ThePundit]

I say yes. He was pretty dominant for a long period with Tampa. I'm still pissed that the Jets chose Kyle Brady instead of him in the draft.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

He had a few good years, but I'll go to my grave believing he was more hype than substance. Never in any given season was he the best DT in the league.

Oh please!...In his prime, name a better one?...

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by vincesanity82

Let me correct all you who say no

13 seasons
7 Pro Bowls
1999 Def player of the year
A vital role in the Bucs 2002 Super Bowl Championship
He had 96 1/2 career sacks, former Minnesota Vikings defensive tackle John Randle is the only interior lineman with more sacks.


Like or hate the man he will most likely be 1st ballot HOF..

I would put him in...maybe not 1st ballot...but if he is not a HOF, neither are half the guys in there now.

[Bette]

I'll remember him best for jawin with Favre. And who can forget that little dance he did one time????
Most of the time when the man talks, I dont quite get what he's saying. Think he is a can or two short of a six pack. But like simon says, that has nothing to do with whether or not he gets into the hof.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Bette

No, I dont think so either. He was great for a while, but I think it should be for a longer period of time.
And simon, they arent being considered for the hof, because they (your pats) havent talked about retiring yet.
And the New England tight ends arent undefeated, their team is. The New E. te's just dont match up with Witten.

Played 13 years, Pro Bowl 7 years is not long enough?...Come on for a DT????...How long do you think these guys, these days, can sustain a peak???

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Played 13 years, Pro Bowl 7 years is not long enough?...Come on for a DT????...How long do you think these guys, these days, can sustain a peak???

Agreed. They had a story on ESPN last night saying he has the most sacks in the time period starting in the 92 season. Only one player has gotten more sacks than him in that time period.

That just seems HOF worthy to me. You can't judge his whole career on the last two or three. He had some really good years in there.

Here is a link to his stats. For some reason, it wouldn't cut and paste her in the right format! And I don't care enough to firure it out!

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Phils20

Agreed. They had a story on ESPN last night saying he has the most sacks in the time period starting in the 92 season. Only one player has gotten more sacks than him in that time period.

That just seems HOF worthy to me. You can't judge his whole career on the last two or three. He had some really good years in there.

Thank you! I knew there was a reason we made you a MOD.

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Thank you! I knew there was a reason we made you a MOD.

Just trying to bring some facts into the deal!

The more I look at it, the more I feel he belongs!

[Bette]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Thank you! I knew there was a reason we made you a MOD.

What???The reason being he agrees with you?

(Nothing personal Phils. It wouldnt make any diff who the mod in question was)

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Bette

What???The reason being he agrees with you?

(Nothing personal Phils. It wouldnt make any diff who the mod in question was)

Yes, I think I will groom him to take over my position some day...

[bears9]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Yes, I think I will groom him to take over my position some day...

You told me that you would groom me for that spot