[bears9]

So the number overall pick still is not signed. ESPN.com and Yahoosports.com hint that this could go into the regular season. The Raiders want to sign him the Al Davis way which got old in the 60s. Russell told the Raiders before the draft if this what you will pay me i won't play for you. What are the Raiders options can they trade him to someone who will play him. Baltimore and Atlanta seem like fits. And one more rumor would Minnestoda for Travis Jackson and a 1st round pick.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by bears9

So the number overall pick still is not signed. ESPN.com and Yahoosports.com hint that this could go into the regular season. The Raiders want to sign him the Al Davis way which got old in the 60s. Russell told the Raiders before the draft if this what you will pay me i won't play for you. What are the Raiders options can they trade him to someone who will play him. Baltimore and Atlanta seem like fits. And one more rumor would Minnestoda for Travis Jackson and a 1st round pick.

Okay people...where is the big stink you all made when Brady Quinn was unsigned?...Lets here about how selfish Russell is being...

[bears9]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Okay people...where is the big stink you all made when Brady Quinn was unsigned?...Lets here about how selfish Russell is being...

Brady Quinn (and Rex Grossman) our my guys but Russell is the number one Mario would be paid more the J-Rus plus the QB benefit Russell should be paid

[Nuke]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Okay people...where is the big stink you all made when Brady Quinn was unsigned?...Lets here about how selfish Russell is being...

If he told the Raiders before the draft his salary demands then it doesn't matter about his selfishness which I don't really think he's being. Al Davis still thinks it's the 70s and wants to sign #1 picks overall to those type of contracts? Sorry Al, the bar has been raised good or bad and you have to deal with it like everyone else. Besides if you knew what Russell wanted in salary and you were not willing to pay it then you shouldn't have drafted him. Reminds me of when the Colts took Edgerrin James instead of Ricky Williams cuz they felt Williams would be unsignable. That's the kind of foresight the Raiders needed. What a joke the silver and black has become. Do they still use the slogan "Commitment To Excellence" cuz frankly I don't see that comitment anymore.

[bears9]

Kinda reminds be of when some team took John Elway Russel is not as good Elway but the situation seems the same

[TexIsHere24]

i heard that it was not about the money anymore...

I heard on Sirius NFL Radio he wants all his money guarenteeed even if he gets into trouble.....like Micheal Vick.....Al Davis doesnt want this to happen.

[bears9]

Russel told them if you want to pay like this don't pick me and they are still trying to pay him like that there Russell thinks they don't care what he thinks and is taking it personally

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Nuke

If he told the Raiders before the draft his salary demands then it doesn't matter about his selfishness which I don't really think he's being. Al Davis still thinks it's the 70s and wants to sign #1 picks overall to those type of contracts? Sorry Al, the bar has been raised good or bad and you have to deal with it like everyone else. Besides if you knew what Russell wanted in salary and you were not willing to pay it then you shouldn't have drafted him. Reminds me of when the Colts took Edgerrin James instead of Ricky Williams cuz they felt Williams would be unsignable. That's the kind of foresight the Raiders needed. What a joke the silver and black has become. Do they still use the slogan "Commitment To Excellence" cuz frankly I don't see that comitment anymore.

You misunderstand...all I said was how come every one jumped all over Brady Quinn and no one is jumping all over Russell?...Both issues are about a 1st round QB asking for more money than the team is willing to give.

[bears9]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

You misunderstand...all I said was how come every one jumped all over Brady Quinn and no one is jumping all over Russell?...Both issues are about a 1st round QB asking for more money than the team is willing to give.

It is different Quinn was 22nd pick in the draft who wants to be paid like a top 10 pick Russell is the number one pick who wants to be paid like it that is fair

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Okay people...where is the big stink you all made when Brady Quinn was unsigned?...Lets here about how selfish Russell is being...

Well, sadly, the first overall pick seems pretty much able to command his own price. Is this more of a case of Davis being stingy or Russell getting greedy? I haven't really heard what the prospective offers were - anyone know?

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

You misunderstand...all I said was how come every one jumped all over Brady Quinn and no one is jumping all over Russell?...Both issues are about a 1st round QB asking for more money than the team is willing to give.

Well, we jumped over Quinn thinking he was asking for an insane amount of money, like $60 million over five years. When that turned out to not be the case, yeah, a lot of us were wrong about him. I really haven't been following the Russell negotiations too closely, because personally, I don't really care if he signs or he doesn't sign, unlike Quinn's case, where there's a part of me that really wants to see Cleveland do well.

[bears9]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Well, sadly, the first overall pick seems pretty much able to command his own price. Is this more of a case of Davis being stingy or Russell getting greedy? I haven't really heard what the prospective offers were - anyone know?

The contract being offered is worth around Mario Williams money there are two problems with that one the cap went up 2. Russell is a Williams is DE Russel QB always get more

[Nuke]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

You misunderstand...all I said was how come every one jumped all over Brady Quinn and no one is jumping all over Russell?...Both issues are about a 1st round QB asking for more money than the team is willing to give.

I think that's got something to do with Russell being the #1 pick overall and Quinn slipping in the draft almost to the second round.