[vincesanity82]

Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis said Monday that quarterback Jimmy Clausen's citation for transporting alcohol as a minor is a simple case of ignorance of the law."I think it's out of ignorance -- and by ignorance I mean lack of knowledge," Weis said. "I don't think he was defiantly trying to get himself into trouble with the law."
Weis said he himself didn't know it was illegal for someone who's underage -- Clausen is 19 -- to drive someone who is of legal drinking age to a liquor store to buy alcohol. He used the analogy of a friend of his son's driving the coach to a supermarket to buy a six pack of beer.
Still, Weis said it was a mistake.
"Did he have bad judgment, being in the wrong place at the wrong time? Absolutely. You can't sit there and say when something happens that nothing happened," Weis said.

ESPN - Weis: Clausen's alcohol arrest an honest mistake - College Football

[Lefty Noob]

He got arrested for driving a friend to a store to buy beer? Sorry, but that's BS.

[vincesanity82]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

He got arrested for driving a friend to a store to buy beer? Sorry, but that's BS.

I never knew this was a law..

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by vincesanity82

I never knew this was a law..

Me neither. Stupid law - does this mean kids can never take mommy and daddy shopping if they want to buy beer?

[Lefty Noob]

Claussen discussed the arrest, among other things, at a recent press conference.

"In regards to my recent legal issue, I used bad judgment in being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and I've learned from my mistake," the ND quarterback said. "I'm obviously now more informed about the Indiana state law... I will have no further comment about these issues, and I'm here to talk about Notre Dame football."

Notre Dame's Clausen speaks on ChicagoSports.com

[D1recruiter]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Me neither. Stupid law - does this mean kids can never take mommy and daddy shopping if they want to buy beer?

No, it means they just can't drive them to the store but they can hold the alcohol ! This is so stupid!!

I deal with youth and the law for forty years and I didn't know it was illegal in the State of Indiana.

Someone just wanted to make an issue out of it because he was a ND football player, IMHO.

[Stoney]

Hey Jimmy!!! You can get away with haulin moonshine only if you are a NASCAR Driver. Take your hickself back to Tennesee. Come to think of it if my team sucked as bad as yours I could understand why you would want to forget your troubles even if just for a moment.

[D1recruiter]

Originally Posted by Stoney

Hey Jimmy!!! You can get away with haulin moonshine only if you are a NASCAR Driver. Take your hickself back to Tennesee. Come to think of it if my team sucked as bad as yours I could understand why you would want to forget your troubles even if just for a moment.

Come on, Stoney. You're being mean to a kid that has done nothing to deserve it. Hate the school, not the kid!

[Stoney]

Wait a moment... we all know if your under 21 no Alcohol period. Besides a kid with a bright future knows stay away from things that can derail your life for example:

Ricky Williams- POT
Leonard Little- DUI Manslaughter
Ray Lewis- Hanging out after curfew [lucky he didn't pull time for murder]
Mike Vick- Women[STDs] and Dogfighting.
Ray Carruth- Women/Child Support Murder
Shawn Kemp- Is you my baby daddy?
Kerry Collins- Alcohol
Chris Benoit- Steroids & Murder & Suicide
OJ- need I say more...

When you are a star athelete and represent a program you cannot go back to anonimity. You will always be in the spotlight for good or ill. Life has its own rewards fame can be a wonderful thing that gives you everything you ever dreamed of. Infamy on the other hand shatters lives but it all starts the moment they commit to these big schools. So in my humble opinion they need to have ethicis classes for athletes beginning in highschool. The need to teach these kids how to handle themselves before they embarass themselves.

[FanOf28]

Why is it the responsibility of high schools to teach athletes right from wrong? Where are the parents of these youngsters? Speaking from personal experience, I can say it is possible to raise four youngsters and send them off to get their college degrees - yes, one of them plays baseball at a Division 1 university - without any run ins with the law, the neighbors, their coaches or anyone else. It's hard work, and sometimes inconvenient, but the values of the parents have greater influence than any other single factor in instilling the values of the athletes. If your athlete goes off to college and gets into trouble with booze, guns, gambling, sex, drugs, or anything else you might add to the list, it most likely is not the fault of his or her high school.

[D1recruiter]

Originally Posted by FanOf28

Why is it the responsibility of high schools to teach athletes right from wrong? Where are the parents of these youngsters? Speaking from personal experience, I can say it is possible to raise four youngsters and send them off to get their college degrees - yes, one of them plays baseball at a Division 1 university - without any run ins with the law, the neighbors, their coaches or anyone else. It's hard work, and sometimes inconvenient, but the values of the parents have greater influence than any other single factor in instilling the values of the athletes. If your athlete goes off to college and gets into trouble with booze, guns, gambling, sex, drugs, or anything else you might add to the list, it most likely is not the fault of his or her high school.

28, agree with your post 100%!

[D1recruiter]

Originally Posted by Stoney

Wait a moment... we all know if your under 21 no Alcohol period. Besides a kid with a bright future knows stay away from things that can derail your life for example:

Ricky Williams- POT
Leonard Little- DUI Manslaughter
Ray Lewis- Hanging out after curfew [lucky he didn't pull time for murder]
Mike Vick- Women[STDs] and Dogfighting.
Ray Carruth- Women/Child Support Murder
Shawn Kemp- Is you my baby daddy?
Kerry Collins- Alcohol
Chris Benoit- Steroids & Murder & Suicide
OJ- need I say more...

When you are a star athelete and represent a program you cannot go back to anonimity. You will always be in the spotlight for good or ill. Life has its own rewards fame can be a wonderful thing that gives you everything you ever dreamed of. Infamy on the other hand shatters lives but it all starts the moment they commit to these big schools. So in my humble opinion they need to have ethicis classes for athletes beginning in highschool. The need to teach these kids how to handle themselves before they embarass themselves.

BTW, Stoney, just for info, in case some reader aren't aware of it, these kids do get several hours of mandatory instruction upon entering ND or any other program on the NCAA rules concerning everything from ethics to use of banned substances.

[Stoney]

Originally Posted by D1recruiter

BTW, Stoney, just for info, in case some reader aren't aware of it, these kids do get several hours of mandatory instruction upon entering ND or any other program on the NCAA rules concerning everything from ethics to use of banned substances.

So what your telling me is Clausen got the info and still was stupid....

[Stoney]

Originally Posted by FanOf28

Why is it the responsibility of high schools to teach athletes right from wrong? Where are the parents of these youngsters? Speaking from personal experience, I can say it is possible to raise four youngsters and send them off to get their college degrees - yes, one of them plays baseball at a Division 1 university - without any run ins with the law, the neighbors, their coaches or anyone else. It's hard work, and sometimes inconvenient, but the values of the parents have greater influence than any other single factor in instilling the values of the athletes. If your athlete goes off to college and gets into trouble with booze, guns, gambling, sex, drugs, or anything else you might add to the list, it most likely is not the fault of his or her high school.

I call BS... Not everybody has a mother and father that love them and instruct them about how to make good decisions. Some people come from situations where they have one parent or no parent. Trust me it is the responsibility of teachers to teach. These miscreants that commit crimes don't teach their kids anything except how to be criminals like them. Somewhere along the way sports is the ticket out of the Ghetto. The real problem is getting the Ghetto out of the students. So yes society does have a responsibility to these kids. Personally I wish they would teach ethics starting in 1st grade everybody should learn what it takes to be a good citizen.

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Stoney

So what your telling me is Clausen got the info and still was stupid....

No, because it's not like he was drinking. He drove someone else to the store and got nailed by an obscure law. Totally different than being immoral or irresponsible.