If Notre Dame is the most overrated college football team, how come it always seems that Individuals (Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart, and even JaMarcus Russell) all are heralded for beating ND? Palmer and Leinart "Won the Heisman Trophy after beating ND, and now Russell is the "first" pick in the draft after his game against ND". If ND is that bad, then these guys shouldn't be heralded for beating them.

[AZAggie]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If Notre Dame is the most overrated college football team, how come it always seems that Individuals (Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart, and even JaMarcus Russell) all are heralded for beating ND? Palmer and Leinart "Won the Heisman Trophy after beating ND, and now Russell is the "first" pick in the draft after his game against ND". If ND is that bad, then these guys shouldn't be heralded for beating them.

They were heralded before they kicked the snot out of ND. Beating the crap out of ND was just icing on the cake.

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Notre Dame football is a charade
Monroenews.com, MI - Jan 5, 2007
It was refreshing to see Notre Dame exposed Wednesday night.

The Irish were blown out 41-14 by Louisiana State in the Sugar Bowl. The humbling loss was exactly what the Fighting Irish deserved.

They were the most overrated college football team in the country this season, and they certainly didn't belong in a Bowl Championship Series game.

The only reason ND got in was because of a bogus two-team limit on conferences for participation in BCS games.

Wisconsin had just one loss but didn't go because Big Ten brethren Michigan and Ohio State already were playing in BCS games.

Auburn had the same record as ND and played a tougher schedule (including a win over Florida) but Southeastern Conference colleagues Florida and LSU already were in BCS games.

Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:17:00 GMT

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[legend]

To answer this question, try to think of the team more overrated than Notre Dame. if it takes you more than ten seconds, then the answer to the original question is no, there is nobody more overrated.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by legend

To answer this question, try to think of the team more overrated than Notre Dame. if it takes you more than ten seconds, then the answer to the original question is no, there is nobody more overrated.

Michagan getting kicked around by USC looked as overrated if not worse...people had them at number 2...and I counted...took me 7 seconds...sooo....I am sure there are others...though not Bosie State huh?

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by legend

To answer this question, try to think of the team more overrated than Notre Dame. if it takes you more than ten seconds, then the answer to the original question is no, there is nobody more overrated.

Well, Alabama's up there too, in the mind of the Tide fans, at least.

[Dogman ND 89]

I noticed a few posters who wrote as if we all have something to do with Notre Dame's relationship to conferences and the NCAA. Well Notre Dame's administration handles that, not a bunch of web geek posters like us. So let's get it in perspective.

But let's address a few items for clarity. I'm an alum and have a different perspective on what is and what should be. Also I'm over 30 and so have an attention span longer than 5 minutes. I remember American history, including sports history. I remember a time when sports were dicussed in something more than ghetto terms, when men were men, not a bunch of hoods. But that's another story.

First of all the NBC contract. ND and NBC like the deal so what's wrong with it for everyone else. I don't hear the other networks complaining. There's nothing illegal, immoral, or unethical about it. It's business, just like ESPN/ABC's monopoly on every major conference other than the SEC. Is that more righteous? I think not.

Second, the idea that ND steals bowls from other teams. Read the rules of the BCS. ND has no more rights than a non-BCS conference team. Also what is so sacred about conferences? I think Boise State proved a point that "BCS" conferences may not be everything they're touted as. Once upon a time before the mid 1990s, independents provided a great balance of powerhouse programs that played among multiple conferences and allowed a check as to a conference's power rating nationally. It's pretty hard to tell these days, other than relying on the pimp sports writers who seem to have agendas to promote one conference or other.

Third, the idea that Notre Dame doesn't matter. Well if Notre Dame didn't matter, you all wouldn't be here talking about it. Florida St. and Miami are going into the black hole Notre Dame just came out of so fans of those teams should quitely wait. Also, the age of cleaner programs might just be around the corner so the homey's from the hood could be looking to go to the NFL a different way. No thanks, Michael Irvin, T.O. etc. So Notre Dame matters to the sports fans who want to teach their kids something good, something better than the Bloods and the Cribs in helmets.

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I just felt the need to correct an earlier post. When someone said Miami had 3 NC's, it was actually 4.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Notre Dame is the most sickening team in the country. If they want to win a bowl game the first thing they should be made to do is join a conference and earn one.

First off, let me start of by saying that Notre Dame will NEVER get into a conference. The Irish have never been in a conference and it wont ever happen. Notre Dame has been approached more times than any other school in the nation to join a conference. I don't see it happening. Second off, any school that's in a conference is a wuss... Just to beat a line of teams that you ALWAYS play to win all your games and make a bowl game is not near as difficult as making it within the top 12 on the BCS rankings. You lose one game and you drop from number 2 to number 12. It's not as easy as any one of you think. Granted, Notre Dame does have the history and legends that put them at the top, it's all based on predictions. Notre Dame started this last season ranked 2 on the AP. Why? Charlie Weis. Why? Brady Quinn. Why? Tom Zibikowski. There are plenty of others. Look at Ohio State. They stayed at the top the entire season only to be blown out by the Gators. Look at USC. Yes, they beat Notre Dame, but they lost to UCLA.

Notre Dame did not start their season overrated. I think starting into the season they decided to be preset where they were. Number 2. I have no doubts about that. We pulled off some very remarkable games. And some of you may say that ND peed their pants when it came to the top dogs. But again, going back to UCLA ...

The only team, and I'm staying the ONLY team, in the nation that I think deserves outstanding points is Boise State. They are the only team in the nation to go completely undefeated. You don't hear them whinning. You don't hear them complaining... Anyways, that's just my imput.

[Dogman ND 89]

Notre Dame might join a conference if it only means joining the athletic portion. As an alum, I voted down the Big Ten push along with a vast majority of alums. The School's board of directors wanted it. But Notre Dame is a Catholic school and joining the Big Ten would mean agreeing to partake in research that may have gone against it's Catholic character and moral teachings. That's a big reason why Notre Dame stays independent. ESPN doesn't tell folks that side of the story.

I liked the points made about USC losing to UCLA and Ohio St. getting blown out by Florida. These are tough teams. I feel like there are a group of younger people who think sports is win it all or you suck. That's not how it should be. Any team in the top 25 is a top notch team. Anyone who's played sports can appreciate that.

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Dogman ND 89

But Notre Dame is a Catholic school and joining the Big Ten would mean agreeing to partake in research that may have gone against it's Catholic character and moral teachings. That's a big reason why Notre Dame stays independent. ESPN doesn't tell folks that side of the story.

Interesting... I had never thought about that, but it makes a lot of sense. I never realized there was conference-mandated academic research requirements. Seems out of place. No such requirements from the Big East, though? Or is that waived because the Irish aren't full conference members?