[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Nuke

Ryan Leaf was the most costly in terms of his being a flop that's true. I thought you guys mean #1 picks in the first round not overall. Overall, yeah you'd have to go with Ryan Leaf. Weird how the guy just didn't make it but quarterback is a tough position to learn.

Nah, see... the fun of it is that they take the worst pick at each draft position and put together the all-time bust draft. Like the worst #1 pick, then the worst #2 pick, and so on throughout the entire first round. So the key is finding the biggest bust at each draft position.

[DaBigManOnCampus]

Worst first round pick... This has Ryan Leaf written all over it. Even with the alright QB years in Washington State... Worst decision in history...

[Bette]

Originally Posted by simple simon

im telling you in a few years alex smith will be on the list

Alex Smith??????????? Come on you guys. Team is rebuilding. Alex will be ok.
On NFL access the other night they were talking about biggest draft busts. I didnt watch it all but I agree that especially at quarter back position its not necessarily all on the player's shoulders. The worst teams get the first picks and so he gets hit a lot and pretty quick that young player gets his self confidence shattered. He doesnt always get it back.
Draft busts has to be decided on a career, not first year play.

[Bette]

Originally Posted by Nuke

Ryan Leaf was the most costly in terms of his being a flop that's true. I thought you guys mean #1 picks in the first round not overall. Overall, yeah you'd have to go with Ryan Leaf. Weird how the guy just didn't make it but quarterback is a tough position to learn.

It had nothing to do with the position being tough to learn or talent. The guy definitely had a few mental issues. I have never been a fan of Ryan Leaf.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Bette

Alex Smith??????????? Come on you guys. Team is rebuilding. Alex will be ok.
On NFL access the other night they were talking about biggest draft busts. I didnt watch it all but I agree that especially at quarter back position its not necessarily all on the player's shoulders. The worst teams get the first picks and so he gets hit a lot and pretty quick that young player gets his self confidence shattered. He doesnt always get it back.
Draft busts has to be decided on a career, not first year play.

Alex posted decent numbers last years...busts don' throw 16 tds and 2,800 yards on a so-so team with bad receivers.

He improved to 16-16 in TD to INT ratio...over 1-11 for his rookie year...a sharp increase...

In week 15th he had a big win against the Seahawks, racking 2 Tds and a 102 QB rating...

He might not end up another Peyton Manning, but he will be no worse than a Scott Mitchell , another Utah QB with a decent NFL career.

[DaBigManOnCampus]

And just even at the time it was a bad choice, The chargers could've had Manning, more proven, and he was a much stronger arm than Ryan Leaf ever was in college. Look what we are talking about, the college scout for the Chargers had to be fired after that one.

[Nuke]

Originally Posted by Bette

It had nothing to do with the position being tough to learn or talent. The guy definitely had a few mental issues. I have never been a fan of Ryan Leaf.

I don't know if mental issues was the reason he flopped but that's my view of course. I mean the guy was horrendous on every down! You'd have to have like a SERIOUS disorder to blame it on mental issues as being responsible for Leaf's play.

[Nuke]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Nah, see... the fun of it is that they take the worst pick at each draft position and put together the all-time bust draft. Like the worst #1 pick, then the worst #2 pick, and so on throughout the entire first round. So the key is finding the biggest bust at each draft position.

Damn! That'll take a real statistician! How about the biggest bust at each position to which Mandarich must hold the top spot for on offensive guard.

[Bette]

Originally Posted by Nuke

I don't know if mental issues was the reason he flopped but that's my view of course. I mean the guy was horrendous on every down! You'd have to have like a SERIOUS disorder to blame it on mental issues as being responsible for Leaf's play.

He was a disaster on the field and a disaster off the field, for whatever reason.

[Bette]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Alex posted decent numbers last years...busts don' throw 16 tds and 2,800 yards on a so-so team with bad receivers.

He improved to 16-16 in TD to INT ratio...over 1-11 for his rookie year...a sharp increase...

In week 15th he had a big win against the Seahawks, racking 2 Tds and a 102 QB rating...

He might not end up another Peyton Manning, but he will be no worse than a Scott Mitchell , another Utah QB with a decent NFL career.

Yeah, my feeling exactly. So how did they come up with this "draft bust" stuff regarding Alex Smith?????????????

[vincesanity82]

The Worst per fox sports..


1. Chargers, 1998: Yes, this was the Ryan Leaf draft and it exposed San Diego for not doing its character homework on the troubled Washington State quarterback. Leaf preferred to have a beer in his hand than a football and he will be forever compared to Peyton Manning, the first pick. The amazing thing was that most teams were split on these two players; Leaf was thought to have a stronger arm and was given high marks for leading a traditionally sorry team to the Rose Bowl while Manning never won anything at Tennessee. This draft also included receiver Mikhael Ricks, another huge bust.
2. Vikings, 2001: Minnesota doesn't have one player from this draft currently on its roster and the top pick, running back Michael Bennett, is the only player still in the NFL and just barely as a backup. Bennett had a couple good years in Minnesota, but overall this draft was a total strikeout.
3. Browns, 2003: This is the Jeff Faine draft. Cleveland has had some awful first-round picks in this decade from running back William Green to Gerard Warren to tough-luck Courtney Brown. Of this franchise's 61 selections in the last seven years, 27 players are out of the league. The only two players left on the roster from this draft are long-snapper Ryan Pontbriand and reserve linebacker Chaun Thompson.
4. Packers, 2004: This is the draft that got head coach/GM Mike Sherman fired. Both cornerbacks Ahmad Carroll and Joey Thomas were busts, plus Green Bay wasted a third-round selection on failed punter B.J. Sander. Amazingly, the only survivor in this draft was center Scott Wells, who was a seventh-round pick. Wells signed a long-term contract last year and he should be the starter in Green Bay for a long time.
5. Saints, 1999: Ricky Williams in a wedding dress and nobody else. Yes, Williams has had some great NFL seasons, but with the Dolphins not the Saints. When Mike Ditka traded his entire draft for the weed-smoking Williams, he thought he was getting a bigger, faster Walter Payton. Of course, it was hilarious to see Ditka posing with dreadlocks, but this draft led to the downward spiral of the franchise. Remember, these were the years when Williams preferred to do all interviews with his helmet on and proved to be a loner in the locker room.
Honorable Mention: 1999 Bengals: QB Akili Smith was taken with third overall pick, but rest of picks were awful, too; 2003 Texans: Andre Johnson in the first round and seven other guys who are no longer with the team; 2001 Cowboys: No first-round picks, but nine were drafted, headlined by QB Quincy Carter, and none played last season in Dallas.

[JRL]

Almost any of the Atlanta Falcons picks

[Booyakascha]

What about Joey Harrington? He's played quite a bit but has yet to be good.