[Lefty Noob]

The woman killed in the Jim Leyritz crash was drunk, the AP is reporting today. In fact, her blood alcohol level of 0.18 was higher than his. It changes nothing in the case, as Leyritz ran a red light and was undoubtedly the cause of the accident, but it is an interesting development in this case and it does serve to make the victim seem less sympathetic.

Victim in Leyritz crash had illegal blood alcohol level - MLB - Yahoo! Sports

[ThePundit]

The biggest shame was that if the woman had been wearing her seat belt, she most likely would have lived.

We may soon need to get to the point in this country for a NO TOLERANCE POLICY. You drink, you can't drive.

How many of us have gotten behind the wheel when we shouldn't have? We just got lucky we didn't kill anybody.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by ThePundit

The biggest shame was that if the woman had been wearing her seat belt, she most likely would have lived.

We may soon need to get to the point in this country for a NO TOLERANCE POLICY. You drink, you can't drive.

How many of us have gotten behind the wheel when we shouldn't have? We just got lucky we didn't kill anybody.

not me, I don't drink...and I am a very defensive driver...still feel like I am surrounded by maniacs out there...a lot of street racing near UCF around here...and they are almost all red light runners. Its a driver beware world.

Back to Leyritz, the victims husband had really wanted to throw the book at him...and now his wife does not have a belt on and was drunk...not really the same case I think.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by ThePundit

The biggest shame was that if the woman had been wearing her seat belt, she most likely would have lived.

We may soon need to get to the point in this country for a NO TOLERANCE POLICY. You drink, you can't drive.

How many of us have gotten behind the wheel when we shouldn't have? We just got lucky we didn't kill anybody.

Nope... I may be wild but that is one thing I don't do, is get behind the wheel of the truck after a few.

[ThePundit]

Originally Posted by Quality88

Nope... I may be wild but that is one thing I don't do, is get behind the wheel of the truck after a few.

You've never driven after a couple of drinks? If you havent -good for you.

I don't want to paint the wrong picture because I hardly ever drink. When I go out, which is not too often, I may have a drink or 2 and usually don't drive. All I'm saying is in the last 20 years, there were times that I probably shouldn't have gotten behind the wheel- especially when I was younger. And the sad truth is that many people do.

I mean, how many people drive sloshed when they leave am NFL football game?

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Back to Leyritz, the victims husband had really wanted to throw the book at him...and now his wife does not have a belt on and was drunk...not really the same case I think.

Morally it may not be the same case but technically it shouldn't matter. He is the one who got caught violating the law. Had he not hit her she may well have gotten home and the PD would have been none the wiser.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Morally it may not be the same case but technically it shouldn't matter. He is the one who got caught violating the law. Had he not hit her she may well have gotten home and the PD would have been none the wiser.

...and had she worn a seat belt the hit might not have killed her...does not a bit of negligence on her side also matter?...Also, if she was not drunk, she may have avoided the hit...that should figure in too...a tragedy sure...is Leyritz guilty?...sure...is the death totally on him?...maybe...maybe not.

[legend]

Legally I don't think this changes anything, unless it can be proved her actions soemhow contributed to things. If I shoot and kill someone and then it is found they were on their way to perhaps murder soemone themselves, I am still a murderer and heading off to jail, unless I am OJ or Bobby Blake.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by legend

Legally I don't think this changes anything, unless it can be proved her actions soemhow contributed to things. If I shoot and kill someone and then it is found they were on their way to perhaps murder soemone themselves, I am still a murderer and heading off to jail, unless I am OJ or Bobby Blake.

See, I disagree...I think some of it is relative... I think the sentencing can be less in the case of Leyritz if it was negligence on the part of the driver that led to death...now is Leyritz guilty of drunk driving? yes...of running a red? yes...Of causing an accident that led to a death? yes...but I think it stops there...I think the rest might or might not be impacted by the conduct of the other driver...

And Legend, if you were to have "killed" say one of the hijackers that took a plane on 911 before the fact, and his name turned out to be link to the group in route to the horrifc crime, do you really think the judge would treat you the same as say, you killed a little old lady while robbing her?...
doubt it.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

...and had she worn a seat belt the hit might not have killed her...does not a bit of negligence on her side also matter?...Also, if she was not drunk, she may have avoided the hit...that should figure in too...a tragedy sure...is Leyritz guilty?...sure...is the death totally on him?...maybe...maybe not.

I'll give you the seat belt issue even though it is a minor offense ... which did not contribute to his guilt of running a light and being over the limit.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

I'll give you the seat belt issue even though it is a minor offense ... which did not contribute to his guilt of running a light and being over the limit.

The Czar has spoken...how can I argue further?...

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

The Czar has spoken...how can I argue further?...

Anybody else want a piece of me ???

[Lefty Noob]

No, legally it changes nothing. Only in the court of public opinion. The innocent victim doesn't seem so innocent anymore.

[Seahawker 562]

Yeah it shouldnt change a thing. If it was running the red which caused the crash, he is 100% at fault

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

No, legally it changes nothing. Only in the court of public opinion. The innocent victim doesn't seem so innocent anymore.

How do you know? Does the man not have to be tried? And if so, can't it not have a sway on a jury just like it may in the court of public opinion? How do you know that it does not change anything legally?