[ThePundit]

Joe Torre's 12-year run as manager of the Yankees will likely end if his team does not rally to beat the Cleveland Indians in the AL Division Series, George Steinbrenner told The Record on Saturday night.

"His job is on the line," the Yankees' owner said in a phone interview. "I think we're paying him a lot of money. He's the highest-paid manager in baseball, so I don't think we'd take him back if we don't win this series."

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You know I can't blame Steinbrenner. You don't judge the Yankees by post season appearances. They haven't won the World Series since 2000. That's the bottom line.

[Lefty Noob]

Wow, no pressure, Torre. Dang. Well, they're down 0-2. They're not winning this series, so I guess Joe'd better get his resume together.

[EmpireWF]

Steinbrenner wanted to get rid of Torre after last year but was talked out of it. It's going to be funny if they make an early exit next year without Torre. It's not like he's the reason they will likely lose this series.

[ThePundit]

Originally Posted by EmpireWF

Steinbrenner wanted to get rid of Torre after last year but was talked out of it. It's going to be funny if they make an early exit next year without Torre. It's not like he's the reason they will likely lose this series.

No - but in the last few years, he stopped managing the way he did in his earlier years.

Up until about 2002 he always played his gut and did what was best for the team. He never thought anything of benching Wade Boggs, Tino Martinez....Also played rookies like Shane Spencer and Ricky Ledee.

Then all of a sudden he started showing too much loyalty to his veterans...Example: Hideki Matsui shouldn't be playing this post season. He can't hit.

Also in 2003 when the lost to the Sox, he sat on his hands and didn't make moves he should have made...Example: stealing on Varitek who couldn't catch wakefield, bunting on Schilling with his gimpy ankle.

So I would like to see a new manager if they go down quietly.

[azrael492]

I have noticed that he is not as aggresive as I remember. He is managing like he is waiting for his high priced players to bail him out with HRs.

You still can not blame him for all of it. I don't think he is the one that put this pitching staff together.

[EmpireWF]

Pundit...

is Torre the reason why:

1. Matsui is 0-7
2. Posada is 0-7
3. Damon is 1-9
4. Jeter is 1-8
5. Cabrera is 1-8
6. Cano is 1-7
7. Rodriguez is 0-6

Don't blame Torre for them losing. It doesn't wash.

[Lefty Noob]

Well, I guess the argument is - why isn't he sitting some of these guys who are batting 0-for-whatever? That one is on the skipper.

[EmpireWF]

You can't bench A-Rod and Posada.

[legend]

Torre's downward spiral began the second they signed Giambi and let Tino walk. Everything he has done since then is the opposite of how he managed before. He used to be like an NL manager in the American League, but now sits and waits for big innings. Every thing comes to an end. Torre should have left on his own volition after last year.