[EmpireWF]

This is pretty funny since the NY Post and NY Daily News are arch rivals lol...

Joe is Going Nowhere according to George King of the Post. Steinbrenner finally made the decision after "soul searching" and Torre will be brought back for a 12th season.

Boy...if this is true, Bill Madden of the Daily News must feel bad.

[Trashed]

Ha! It figures! If Joe Torre stays with the Yankees and Yankee fans continue to support this choke franchise then they must be considered the worst fans in baseball in my opinion. Torre has deficated on Yankee fans since game 6 of the 2004 ALCS and their fans still follow him like somekind of pied piper. Spare me the loyalty crap too. If your loyal to this zombie Torre, the worst manager in baseball than you remind me of those Nazi's who stuck with Hitler in his bunker with the Russian army 500 yards away. That's the bronx to all you people lucky enough not to live here in this cesspool, I see it every day living here. Just a bunch of mob wannabe, low IQ savages who I think should be ***CENSORED*** so that the human gene pool doesn't regress anymore than it is.

[MVB]

*cough* *cough*

It's just baseball... just a game, man.

[EmpireWF]

Trashed, when you get on someone, you really pile on. lol

Torre isn't the worst manager in the game...far from it.

[Trashed]

Originally Posted by EmpireWF

Trashed, when you get on someone, you really pile on. lol

Torre isn't the worst manager in the game...far from it.

Ok well name some worse. I tell you what, no matter who you mention even though they may have gaping flaws at least they try! Joe Torre just sits there with his cap covering his face and the fact that he's sleeping and is perfectly content to let the players manage themselves. The guy who hosts Dancing With The Stars would make a better manager for a baseball team. Imagine getting paid so much money for doing NOTHING! Not A-Rod who sucks but actually takes at bats and fields balls but Torre does as much as my pet rock did in the 70s!!! The worst Torre is!! LETS GO METS!!! NEW YORK BELONGS TO US NOW!!!

[Trashed]

Originally Posted by MVB

*cough* *cough*

It's just baseball... just a game, man.

Yeah I know but i'm cutting on the Bronx. I get carried away with this borough. This place the Bronx which is where Yankees represent is about as enjoyable to live in as swallowing razor blades with rubbing alcohol.

[EmpireWF]

Originally Posted by Trashed

Ok well name some worse. I tell you what, no matter who you mention even though they may have gaping flaws at least they try! Joe Torre just sits there with his cap covering his face and the fact that he's sleeping and is perfectly content to let the players manage themselves. The guy who hosts Dancing With The Stars would make a better manager for a baseball team. Imagine getting paid so much money for doing NOTHING! Not A-Rod who sucks but actually takes at bats and fields balls but Torre does as much as my pet rock did in the 70s!!! The worst Torre is!! LETS GO METS!!! NEW YORK BELONGS TO US NOW!!!

What makes you think he does nothing? Because he doesn't stomp around, getting physically mad? Because he doesn't shout and berate his players or the umps?

Torre has his style and it's worked for him in the past. There wasn't much he could do in the ALDS. All his hitters (safe for Jeter & Posada) fell flat and he had no pitching (besides Wang).

What would you do if you were in his shoes?

[Trashed]

Joe is Going Nowhere .... and the Yankees won't either in the playoffs!

[Trashed]

Originally Posted by EmpireWF

What makes you think he does nothing? Because he doesn't stomp around, getting physically mad? Because he doesn't shout and berate his players or the umps?

Torre has his style and it's worked for him in the past. There wasn't much he could do in the ALDS. All his hitters (safe for Jeter & Posada) fell flat and he had no pitching (besides Wang).

What would you do if you were in his shoes?

Empire he doesn't have to stomp around ala LaSorda but he HAS to argue calls! I mean doesn't a manager have to stand up for his players??? Torre has his style? Torre has no pulse! He's like a manager from a George Romero movie!

[EmpireWF]

I don't remember any calls that warranted Torre arguing that would have inspired the Yankee bats and arms.

If you don't like him because he's not loud, alright, but don't go blaming him for the Yankee playoff collapse.

[Trashed]

It's not 100% his fault. It's about maybe....94%. Oh and when K-Rod got tagged out at third at that close play in the Tiger series Living Dead should have came out and argued.

[legend]

I can guarantee you that all of Steinbrenner's wrath grew from Torre not coming out to argue the play at third in Game Three. But even George realized that he would tarnish everything from the Torre era by having it end this way, so he kept him for one more year. As for the rest of it, the Yankees are what they are, a collection of overpriced, aging hitters assembled into a team. I found it interesting that Cashman said there was no intention of trading A-Rod, because I'll bet you that just the oppsoit is true. This team has failed miserably three times in a row, to try it a fourth would be sheer stupidity.

[ThePundit]

Great column by Bill Madden which pretty much explains how everything went down.
New York Daily News - Sports Columnists - Bill Madden: Three reasons Boss did the flip-flop

[legend]

This after Madden had Torre being fired for sure on the weekend.

[MJHMarc]

Woah! This thread was getting a little rough earlier today!

Calm down (become Simonized)....

The main thing is that Joe Torre will be back next season. He has been a great figure in the Yankees franchise because of his stunning performance of 2006. Steinbrenner figured out that he should deal with the players and not the coaches. I would expect Alex Rodriguez to be shipped of to some far away island where he will officially retire from baseball. As for Joe Torre, he has had a good relationship with Steinbrenner and I'll expect him to do well. I admit that he isn't a great manager with his conservative lifestyle, but unlike some out there he has gained the respect of the organization!