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Old 01-29-2008, 04:53 PM
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New Mets Rotation: Best in NL?

Assuming Johan Santana does become a Met within the next couple of days, do you think they have the best rotation in the league?

Here's the projected rotation with their 07 stats

1. lhp Johan Santana (15-13, 219 IP, 3.33 ERA, 33 GS, 235 SO)
2. rhp Pedro Martinez (3-1, 28 IP, 2.57 ERA, 5 GS, 32 SO)
3. rhp John Maine (15-10, 191 IP, 3.91 ERA, 32 GS, 180 SO)
4. lhp Oliver Perez (15-10, 177 IP, 3.56 ERA, 29 GS, 174 SO)
5. rhp El Duque (9-5, 147 IP, 3.72 ERA, 24 GS, 128 SO)

Plus, Mike Pelfrey will be waiting in the wings.

Is it the best rotation in the league?
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:33 AM
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Re: New Mets Rotation: Best in NL?

No, too many what ifs, i.e. Pedro, Perez, and Hernandez. Maine is a gd #3 and Perez a #4 but if they are counting on Hernandez and Martinez then think it will be a long season. The Dodgers have a better staff I think and the Dbacks is even better. SD has more potential the the Mutts. Peavy and Santana match-up well but after that SD is better. Colorado has some nice young arms. Even the Phils 1-2-3 is as gd as the Mutts.
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Re: New Mets Rotation: Best in NL?

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Assuming Johan Santana does become a Met within the next couple of days, do you think they have the best rotation in the league?

Here's the projected rotation with their 07 stats

1. lhp Johan Santana (15-13, 219 IP, 3.33 ERA, 33 GS, 235 SO)
2. rhp Pedro Martinez (3-1, 28 IP, 2.57 ERA, 5 GS, 32 SO)
3. rhp John Maine (15-10, 191 IP, 3.91 ERA, 32 GS, 180 SO)
4. lhp Oliver Perez (15-10, 177 IP, 3.56 ERA, 29 GS, 174 SO)
5. rhp El Duque (9-5, 147 IP, 3.72 ERA, 24 GS, 128 SO)

Plus, Mike Pelfrey will be waiting in the wings.

Is it the best rotation in the league?
I like it...nice comeback for Oliver Perez from his Pittsburgh days.
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Re: New Mets Rotation: Best in NL?

I think Santana is the best in the NL. Maine may overtake Pedro as the #2 guy. The rest are average at best.
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I like it...nice comeback for Oliver Perez from his Pittsburgh days.
I guess you are not talking about 2004 when he went 12-10 with a 2.99 ERA , held batters to a .207 avg and had 240K's... and was only 23 years old. Yeah those were bad days in Pittsburgh.
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I guess you are not talking about 2004 when he went 12-10 with a 2.99 ERA , held batters to a .207 avg and had 240K's... and was only 23 years old. Yeah those were bad days in Pittsburgh.
Yeah, he had some good times for us, but he struggled pretty badly near the end of his stay in the Burgh. He needed the change of scenery.
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Didn't the Pirate organization try to change Perez's pitching style?
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I guess you are not talking about 2004 when he went 12-10 with a 2.99 ERA , held batters to a .207 avg and had 240K's... and was only 23 years old. Yeah those were bad days in Pittsburgh.
Oh give me a break!... he was a wonder boy in 2004...but you and I know he lost it for a while soon after that...it was good to see him back...I mean the way he was pitching in 2004, he had me thinking Jake Peavy...but then he posted ERAs in the 5's and 6's...and yeah, those days I was refering to.
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Re: New Mets Rotation: Best in NL?

I don't think so, I like the D-Backs rotation with Haron, Webb, Livan Hernandez, and Micah Owings
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I don't think so, I like the D-Backs rotation with Haron, Webb, Livan Hernandez, and Micah Owings
Livan is a free-agent now.

Haren and Webb is definitely a great 1-2 punch. Right up there with Santana and Pedro
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Livan is a free-agent now.

Haren and Webb is definitely a great 1-2 punch. Right up there with Santana and Pedro
Oh I didn't know about Livan but I still the say the D-Backs are better. Pedro is a shadow of his former self.
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Re: New Mets Rotation: Best in NL?

No way, the Bravos have the best rotation.

Tim Hudson
John Smoltz
Tom Glavine
Mike Hampton
Chuck James
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No way, the Bravos have the best rotation.

Tim Hudson
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No way, the Bravos have the best rotation.

Tim Hudson
John Smoltz
Tom Glavine
Mike Hampton
Chuck James
Just don't ask Tommy to pitch a big game for you. And it's only going to be a matter of time before Hampton is back to the sidelines.

Pedro actually looked pretty good once he returned late last season.
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The Braves rotation is an injury waiting to happen in Hudson and Hampton. Despite Glavine's failure at the end with the Mutts, he is still a gd #4. The only one they can count on is Smoltz. I like Santana and I am sorry to see him come to the NL East... but I think people are deluding themselves if they expect big things from Pedro. When he signed with the Mutts every talking head said the same thing, "First year or two he will be fine, but he will go downhill fast and the Mutts are going to be stuck on the back end of that contract." Well this is year 4 and I predict he does not make 20 starts this year. The Mutts got a great pitcher but it is not enough.
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