[EmpireWF]

Is Tom Glavine going to be the last pitcher (EVER) to reach the 300 wins mark? It most certainly appears so.

The only other guy close is Randy Johnson with 284 wins and his season is over due to injury. Will he ever pitch again? He's 43-years old. If he's able to return, it could take two seasons until he gets to 300. Will The Big Unit be pitching into the 2009 season? Highly unlikely.

Behind RJ is Mike Mussina with 244 wins. Since joining the Yanks, he's averaged 15 wins per season. He only has five this year. He is 38-years old. It's unlikely he'll reach the 10 win mark this year. Does he have enough left in the tank to earn another 50+ wins? That's at least four more years pitching at a quality level. Again, highly unlikely.

Then there are the guys behind him, like David Wells (235), Jamie Moyer, Curt Schilling, Kenny Rogers, Pedro Martinez and John Smoltz (203). Safe to say none of these veterans have a shot.

Way down the line is 31-year old Tim Hudson. He has 129 career wins. He now plays in an era where a starter going 7 innings is a surprise. Now that he's in the national league also doesn't help matters. Assuming he can average 13 wins per year (that's a high watermark), he'd need to play until he's 43-years old. Can he do it? We don't know but it's safe to say Hudson won't be the Roger Clemens or Tom Glavine of MLB come 2019.

So it appears that Tom Glavine will be the last of a dead breed. The last pitcher to reach the 300 mark...(assuming he can get that final W ).


Does anyone see it differently?

[Lefty Noob]

Glavine may not be the last one ever, but he'll be the last for a long while. I could see maybe a younger pitcher, a Roy Oswalt or a Johan Santana maybe making an eventual run at it. But Johnson won't make it, Mussina won't, none of the guys sitting over 200 will get there, and Hudson probably won't either. But to say it'll never happen again? No, someone out there will get there, it might just take a while.

[vincesanity82]

records were made to be broken but props to my man glavine, most of his wins were in a braves uniform..

[EmpireWF]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Glavine may not be the last one ever, but he'll be the last for a long while. I could see maybe a younger pitcher, a Roy Oswalt or a Johan Santana maybe making an eventual run at it. But Johnson won't make it, Mussina won't, none of the guys sitting over 200 will get there, and Hudson probably won't either. But to say it'll never happen again? No, someone out there will get there, it might just take a while.

Will guys like Oswalt and Santana play long enough to though? Perhaps they're good choices since they're aces and usually go long. But with the days of the five, six inning starter, it's going to take guys longer to pile on wins.