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Old 02-11-2006, 03:05 PM
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Wink The Disaster which is the NY Knicks

I for one would hate to see Isiah Thomas fired or resign at this point. Let him stick round and suffer through this abonation of a team he has put together.

The Knicks are a dysfunctional roster of overpaid mish-mosh. When Thomas arrived a couple of years ago, he claimed his goal was to win the championship. Now the Knicks are in a reuilding mode Thomas claims.

Does this make any sense to you because it doesn't to me? If he was clearing out bad contracts so in a year or two, the Knicks could compete, it would be one thing. But the Knicks are getting older and keep falling deeper into salary cap abyss. For instance, Thomas just traded Antonio Davis whos contract is up at the end of this year for 33 year old Jalen rose who has a year remaining on his contract at about $10 million.

And Thomas has to face it: Stephon Marbury is a losing player. But the Knicks are stuck with him because he makes a trillion dollars.

Thomas in desparation is paying Larry Brown 50 million dollars to try and turn this olio into something. But I have news for you. If they combined Red Auerbach, Pat Riley, Phil Jackson, John Wooden, and KC Jones into one "Super-Coach" , he wouldn't win either.
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Old 02-11-2006, 03:10 PM
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Don't get me started on this horrific situation. Had Isiah Thomas never made some of the dumbest trades since he's arrived, the Knicks could have been under the salary cap by the year 2007 or 2008. Now, we'll be lucky if we can spend some serious free agent money by 2020.

I've heard reports now that Isiah has turned the corner and is on the same page with Larry Brown as far as personnel goes. The big story this week was Brown giving Thomas a list of players he'd like.

The only untouchable on the Knicks roster should be Channing Frye. Everyone else is expendable.

Thomas has looked into trading Marbury from what I've heard but there haven't been any serious takers because he makes too much money down the road.

I expect atleast 2 "big" moves to occur towards the trade deadline. Don't know where they'll go but I'm expecting the face of this team to change...again.

Hell, heard on the radio earlier today about Brown and Eddy Curry getting into an argument over his "defensive abilities." I hope Brown chewed him good though.
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Old 02-12-2006, 11:03 AM
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Ugh. What can you say about the Knicks. I hate the entire roster with the exception of Frye and Robinson. Now it looks like the Knicks are going to win the draft lottery and hand that pick over to the Bulls. How ironic. I mean, wouldn't it be fitting if the Bulls picked some high school kid who turns into a big superstar. Or they could pick Sheldon WIlliams who will probably be better than Eric Curry ever will - the player IT forked the pick to the Bulls for.

I thought IT was going to trim the cap - make a play for a top flite superstar down the road. He didn't - he settled. He's no better than Scott "Frederic Weiss" Layden. Imagine, even though Artest is a headcase, wouldn't you have picked him over Weiss just based on talent? The least they could have gotten for Artest (he probably would have been happier in NY) would have been Peja. Now they have Jamal Crawford, Jalen Rose, and a whole bunch of crap.

Did IT think that Larry Brown would come in and turn these sacks of crap into a contender? I mean, how bad does Larry Brown miss Detroit right now. Actually, they're doing better without him.
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Old 02-12-2006, 06:52 PM
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I agree that it is going to be hard for Brown to win with the current bunch of players, but he is a great coach; look at what he did with Detroit. He did not have a lot of great players in Detroit, just a great team that knew how to play together. Hopefully he can team up with Isiah and get what he needs for next season.
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Old 02-13-2006, 02:01 PM
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Knicks are hopeless

It's a sad time to be a Knick fan. I don't understand why Thomas keeps trading for bad contracts, but then again he let the CBA go bankrupt. His only claim to fame since he retired from playing is drafting tracy Mcgrady. Besides that I think he's worthless and needs to be forced out. With one of the greatest coaches ever and two young budding superstars in Channing Frye and Eddy Curry, the Knicks have a decent nucleus. I'ts time for Thomas and Marbury to get out of New York
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:44 AM
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Thumbs up Mavs vs. Knicks

OK, I take back some of what I said about the Mavs in my other thread. After the way they took the Knicks apart last night, I understand better what's going on with both teams. It's a sad fact that the Mavs wouldn't have been able to dismantle the Knicks if they hadn't let Thomas dismantle them first, and now the Mavs are rivaling the Spurs for best in the West. Let's compare: ten losses in a row or 14 wins out of 5 games. The Mavs are suddeny looking pretty good.
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:24 PM
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Re: The Disaster which is the NY Knicks

The most ironic thing about all of it is that the Knicks have a good core of young players. Frye and Robinson, as people have mentioned, but also David Lee, who's active, tall and has good hands. I never saw Ariza, but apparently he's decent as well. that's 4 good players they could have built around. Instead they just keep taking on dead weight ballhogs like Rose, Curry and Stevie Migraine.

Here's another ironic thing: on paper these guys could contend for a title. In fact, i'll bet they get to .500 on the season. but at what cost? THe Bulls get thier first-rounder next year and the option to swap picks in 2008.
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Re: The Disaster which is the NY Knicks

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Old 03-01-2006, 10:03 PM
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Re: The Disaster which is the NY Knicks

What does everyone think about the reports that Isiah and Larry are safe at least through the end of the season. Should one or both of them get the axe, and if so, who would be your ideal candidates to replace them and try to get all of this sorted out?
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