[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Tiny Tom

I honestly think Manning is just like Rivers, Losman, Smith, Young and the rest of the mid-20 year old quarterbacks. He's average just like them. No more "he's learning" or "he's young" either. Eli Manning has been playing for almost 4 years now so unless something drastic happens, this is the QB he is. Frankly I think that he's good and made some really nice throws in the Dallas game. No QB could be under siege as much as Eli was and have a great game unless you were John Elway or Dan Marino and Eli Manning nor any of these young QBs are Elway or Marino by a long shot.

Talent aside (cause there are some young guns with raw talent), QB's are asked to "Manage" games these days. Could anyone imagine a 1970's or 80's QB being asked to manage a game? Not likely.

[Tiny Tom]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Talent aside (cause there are some young guns with raw talent), QB's are asked to "Manage" games these days. Could anyone imagine a 1970's or 80's QB being asked to manage a game? Not likely.

Yeah, we call guys like Damon Huard "bus drivers" (which ironically is what I do for a living!) which means that they just hand the ball off and complete short high percentage passes. The only problem is with all these Bus Drivers is they're given too conservative an offense to run and don't learn to take charge. I don't think we'll see another Peyton Manning for a while. I mean lets face it. Aside from Tom Brady the most exciting QB is the unknown breakout star of this year Derek Anderson. Anderson is most definitely not a Bus Driver and he makes the game more exciting.