[vincesanity82]

As the non-holdout holdout by Giants defensive end Michael Strahan continues, a team insider tells us that the organization firmly believes that Strahan is trying to get more money or a trade out of town, without facing the fines and the stigma of holding out.

"He thinks he's cute in that he doesn't want to be fined, but we know he needs the money, so he won't sit out," the source said. "Before he comes in the next leak will be that he wants to be traded. He and his agent are as easy to read as looking through a window."

Actually, there's already talk of Strahan wanting out. An industry source recently told us that Strahan wants to be traded to a contender, or to a team that will pay him a bunch of money. Look for the Panthers and the Redskins to be floated as possible destinations.

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[mervinout]

strahan has no real trade value, and he retirment has to be in sight, so if your the giants, and its have him retire or sit out, or trade him i think you force him into retirment, he can hurt the giants more then the trade value can help the giants

[Lefty Noob]

Mara's calling Strahan's bluff. According to the New York Post, "Giants co-owner John Mara yesterday reiterated the team stance that there is no room for any negotiation of Michael Strahan's salary, which is $4 million for this season." So now it's a game of who blinks first.

[bears9]

Sorry Strahan there is no loyalty in the NFL it is a business. He should come to camp or retire that's it. If Strahan wants loyalty he should get a dog.

Just keep it away from Micheal Vick

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by bears9

Sorry Strahan there is no loyalty in the NFL it is a business. He should come to camp or retire that's it. If Strahan wants loyalty he should get a dog.

Just keep it away from Micheal Vick

And that is the reason you see Quinn holding out...can't have it both ways boys and girls...when you have leverage you have to use it...Quinn has it...Strahan doesn't...

[bears9]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

And that is the reason you see Quinn holding out...can't have it both ways boys and girls...when you have leverage you have to use it...Quinn has it...Strahan doesn't...

But it is different Quinn is a rookie and the 22nd pick in the draft Strahan is a veteran who is getting old and doesnt a raise it is different

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by bears9

But it is different Quinn is a rookie and the 22nd pick in the draft Strahan is a veteran who is getting old and doesnt a raise it is different

Yep, it is different Quinn has leverage and will get better money...it's a business like you said, and when he gets old they will show him the door...so he will hold out for more...as he should.

[bears9]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

Yep, it is different Quinn has leverage and will get better money...it's a business like you said, and when he gets old they will show him the door...so he will hold out for more...as he should.

Quinn will get more money because he will get paid like the 22nd pick and Strahan will not get paid hhis money and he will get cut trade or retire.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by bears9

Quinn will get more money because he will get paid like the 22nd pick and Strahan will not get paid hhis money and he will get cut trade or retire.

bears dream on!...He will get much, much more than 22nd money...or else he would have signed by now.

[bears9]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

bears dream on!...He will get much, much more than 22nd money...or else he would have signed by now.

read sign and follow the rules Goth

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by bears9

read sign and follow the rules Goth

nope...we are discussing contract leverage, which is what Strahan does not have...which is ON topic...

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

nope...we are discussing contract leverage, which is what Strahan does not have...which is ON topic...

Yep, Goth's right on this one. Strahan doesn't have a leg to stand on. The dude's on the downside of his career and he wants Freeney type money, which is crazy. Even I can admit that Quinn has more leverage than Strahan.

[mervinout]

when your a 35 DE and you got one year at 4 mil left, and the owner says they wont renegoiate, its a take it or retire situation, he has no leg to stand on. Quinn will prob end up with like 17 18 pick(last years draft) money but i cant see him doing better then most alloted around him

[Bette]

I'm not sure what Strahan is playing at here. He's got to know he's not going to get what he wants. He's been in the business too long. So what is he really trying to do???

[mervinout]

Originally Posted by Bette

I'm not sure what Strahan is playing at here. He's got to know he's not going to get what he wants. He's been in the business too long. So what is he really trying to do???

maybe he wants to play with dallas , but lets be honest strahan thought he could bully a new gm but he cant