[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

I'd be willing to trade ya Romo for the kid evens up...

hell look at that

Romo led the 'Boys to the playoffs and youre already willing to trade him away

Game Set Match

[EmpireWF]

You have to agree with the move. Although I know many Giant fans hope they can restructure the financial figures to ease some burden on the cap. In any event, the Giants will live or die with Manning at the helm. 07 seems to be a down year while Coughlin is on the way out and Reese can find his guy for 2008. I have faith that Eli is the right guy to lead the Giants though.

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by simple simon

so full of fire you are......so eager to jump when you dont fully understand

learning is not only watching, but also doing and making mistakes......and that is what many of todays QB's are not getting the time to do

31 TDs and 58 INTs eh ?..........you think many of the newer QBs would get away with that today without many people calling for them to be sat or traded ?........not likely

hell it amazes me Vick is still staring and Kordell had such a long leash these fans dont take kindly to losing....it gets old fast

Dude...I will type slow for you...the point...was...that...Eli...did not...throw the...5...8...interceptions...the point is...that he has...done...much....much ...much better than that...and...yet...you ...guys...are...eager...to jump...on...the...band wagon...that...says...he...is...over...rated....

The...point was...that he...is much better....at this point...then some...famed HOF QB....

What...did...you...fail...to...U...n...d...e...r.. .s...t...a...n...d?

[Gotham Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by simple simon

hell look at that

Romo led the 'Boys to the playoffs and youre already willing to trade him away

Game Set Match

Yep...that's the kind of thinking that made me GTG Super Bowl Champ...and you...1st runner up...

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Gotham Dark Knight

..you ...guys...are...eager...to jump...on...the...band wagon...that...says...he...is...over...rated....

where did i say that ?

show me

i never once said he was overrated i dont think he is worth a large extension

i merely said most of the fans today dont want to wait for a QB to develop they dont want to go through the process.....they want results now.....this society is turning less and less patient by the minute

look before you leap dude its a long way down

d.i.d...y.o.u...f.o.l.l.o.w...t.h.a.t...?.?.?

[EmpireWF]

Originally Posted by simple simon

i never once said he was overrated i dont think he is worth a large extension

I don't think that's a factor in this decision. If he wasn't given the extension, he would be eligible to become a free agent at the end of the season. Hardly a tough decision when you look at it like that.

[Nuke]

Well I say Eli is an average quarterback at the moment. Now i'm not going into potential or who he was better than at this point in his career, i'm just going by what I see on the field. Eli has a superb cast to carry his game in Burress, Toomer, Shockey, Barber, etc. Still I think Eli can be in the very good category and most importantly cut down on those INTs if he was an offense better suited to his skills. This offense is far too complicated for Mannning who seeming likes to do things and has success doing those things at a far quicker pace. With that in mind i'm surprised they kept Coughlin and didn't go for an offense minded coach, one who could really benefit Eli Manning.

[ThePundit]

Originally Posted by Nuke

Believe me Goth, I think Coughlin would much rather have Tony Romo than ol' Eli. This is a horrendous move, if Plaxico Burress didn't have freakishly long arms Eli would have been sitting on the bench right now no matter how much they're paying this bust. I'm firmly convinced now that the NY Giants are a tax write off!!!

I totally agree with Nuke. This is crazy. Take the name Manning off his back and just based on his skill, he's not very good. I've watched pretty much every Giant game since he's been here and he is NOT ACCURATE.

[ThePundit]

WAIT. The Giants are denying this rumor.

A report that the Giants have extended quarterback Eli Manning's contract through the 2012 season is not true, according to the team.

The Giants weeks ago triggered a buy-back option that increased Manning's salaries for the last three years of the deal, which terminates after the 2009 season. The final two years of the contract would have been voided if they were not bought back.


"It is the same contract that was reported as six years and $45-54 million back in 2004," reads a statement issued Monday by the Giants. "All of the buy-back bonus and simple escalators that have been earned are included in those same numbers that were initially reported.

"Eli's contract goes through 2009. We exercised a buy-back which was intended to be exercised all along and has been planned for accordingly. There is nothing 'new' about Eli's current contract status."

As a result, Manning's salaries rise from $1.8 million to $6 million this year, $1.6 million to $8 million in 2008 and $2.1 million to $8.5 million in 2009.

Monday, the Giants signed Houston blocking fullback Vonta Leach to an offer sheet reportedly worth $8 million over four years. The Texans have seven days to match the offer. Since the 6-foot, 250-pound Leach was a free agent signee with Green Bay, there is no compensation involved.

The Giants' off-season program began Monday and while the team is not issuing any "attendance report," neither tight end Jeremy Shockey nor wide receiver Plaxico Burress was in house. The two have spent the bulk of the past two off-seasons working out in Miami.

Manning was there, as were defensive end Michael Strahan, cornerback Sam Madison, center Shaun O'Hara and tackle Kareem McKenzie, among others.

"I always like to work out in the middle group," Manning said through a team release. "That way you get to see the guys from the early group as they're finishing up, then you see the guys in your group, then catch the guys in the final group.

"So you kind of get to see everybody get back in.''

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[simple simon]

well according to that Pundit his contract wasnt due to run out until 09 already.........not after this season like Empire thought

so now i really see no reason for the bump in salary

you want more money how about winning a few playoff games.....like Nuke said, he has the talent around him