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AP) IRVING, Texas Two longtime football coaches were talking this summer about the way things used to be, back when they worked together and really pushed their players.

They lamented how much more coddling is done these days, especially in training camp. So they decided to do something about it. One said he was going back to the old way; the other said he'd do the same.

That might not seem like a remarkable tale, except that the conversation was between Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick.

cbs4boston.com - Parcells, Belichick Sharing Ideas & Advice

cant hurt to have a sounding board like that