[BringBackWilkesboro]

Would you look at what our Bob Tanner has started now. A simple hypothetical thread about how far apart the Super Teams are from the smaller ones in cup now has us actually keeping track of two separate classes. It made me think about how doing almost the same thing would be great for Cup Raiders and Nationwide Regulars, and I have agreed to take the job, so here's what I've come up with.

I've decided I'll use NASCAR's existing scoring system. The point of doing this (at least for me) is so we can look at Nationwide standings as if there were no cup regulars, so using that scoring system would do just that. Here is a mock results chart to explain how it will go.

Say this was the top 10 finishers for a given race:
1. Kyle Busch
2. Carl Edwards
3. Clint Bowyer
4. Jason Leffler
5. David Ragan
6. Mike Bliss
7. Brad Keselowski
8. Jeff Burton
9. David Reutimann
10. Michael Annett

I would take that and separate CR from NR and score them accordingly. Here would be the point standings for the above example (I've left out bonus points for leading laps because it's too much to make those stats up just for an example):

CR Standings
1. Kyle Busch- 185
2. Carl Edwards- 170
3. Clint Bowyer- 165
4. David Ragan- 160
5. Jeff Burton- 155
6. David Reutimann- 150

NR Standings
1. Jason Leffler- 185
2. Mike Bliss- 170
3. Brad Keselowski- 165
4. Michael Annett- 160

So it's pretty simple. I will post each classes race results and then the corresponding point standings after each race, and we'll see what happens. I may be crazy for doing this, but at least it will enhance the way I track the Nationwide series (not hard to do since prior to this, I payed zero attention).

Also, if anyone has suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated.

[Quality88]

Bob's created a monster

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Quality88

Bob's created a monster

Maybe we need to call it "Bob's Monster"?

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

Maybe we need to call it "Bob's Monster"?

Sounds good.

[LSC9901]

I'm just gonna pass on this one.

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Camping World 300 - Race 1 of 35

Cup Raider Results - Overall Finish in ()
1. Tony Stewart (1st)
2. Carl Edwards (2nd)
3. Clint Bowyer (3rd)
4. Kyle Busch (4th)
5. Greg Biffle (5th)
6. Brian Vickers (6th)
7. Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (7th)
8. David Ragan (8th)
9. Matt Kenseth (10th)
10. Kevin Harvick (11th)
11. David Reutimann (12th)
12. Joe Nemechek (13th)
13. Joey Logano (20th)
14. Michael Waltrip (24th)

Nationwide Regular Results
1. Jason Keller (9th)
2. Michael McDowell (14th)
3. Brendan Gaughan (15th)
4. Kenny Wallace (16th)
5. DJ Kennington (17th)
6. Mark Green (18th)
7. Mike Wallace (19th)
8. Jon Wes Townley (21st)
9. Brad Keselowski (22nd)
10. Danny O'Quinn, Jr. (23rd)
11. Brian Keselowski (25th)
12. Eric McCulre (26th)
13. Jeff Green (27th)
14. Mike Bliss (28th)
15. Mike Harmon (29th)
16. Jeff Green (30th)
17. Tony Raines (31th)
18. Scott Wimmer (32th)
19. Jason Leffler (33th)
20. Robert Richardson (34th)
21. Michael Annett (35th)
22. Donnie Neuenberger (36th)
23. Brandon Whitt (37th)
24. Kertus Davis (37th)
25. Morgan Shepherd (39th)
26. Justin Allgaier (40th)
27. Kenny Hendrick (41st)
28. Steve Wallace (42nd)
29. Scott Lagasse, Jr. (43rd)

Points Standings

CR Top 10
1. Tony Stewart (190pts)
2. Carl Edwards (-15)
2. Clint Bowyer (-15)
4. Kyle Busch (-25)
5. Greg Biffle (-30)
6. Brian Vickers (-35)
7. Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (-44)
8. Matt Kenseth (-47)
9. David Ragan (-4
10. Kevin Harvick (-51)

NR Top 10 (How they truly should be)
1. Jason Keller (190pts)
2. Michael McDowell (-20)
3. Brenden Gaughan (-25)
4. Kenny Wallace (-30)
5. DJ Kennington (-35)
6. Mark Green (-40)
7. Brad Keselowski (-42)
8. Mike Wallace (-44)
9. Jon Wes Townley (-4
10. Danny O'Quinn, Jr. (-56)

All of this is still unofficial. If anything changes, I'll make the adjustments.

[Phils20]

Great thread!

Thanks to both of you for the effort it takes to track this! I'll be following this all season!

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Originally Posted by Phils20

Great thread!

Thanks to both of you for the effort it takes to track this! I'll be following this all season!

And thanks to you for actually caring. I assume quite a few people will see what we're doing as absurd.

[jks812]

I think it's great. I know it takes alot of effort and thanks for doing it.

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Stater Brothers 300 - Race 2 of 35

Cup Raider Results - Overall Finish in ()
1. Kyle Busch (1st)
2. Kevin Harvick (2nd)
3. Joey Logano (3rd)
4. Carl Edwards (4th)
5. David Ragan (5th)
6. Jeff Burton (6th)
7. David Reutimann (7th)
8. Brian Vickers (8th)
9. Michael Waltrip (15th)
10. Greg Biffle (34th)
11. Joe Nemechek (35th)

Nationwide Regular Results
1. Brendan Gaughan (9th)
2. Steve Wallace (10th)
3. Jason Leffler (11th)
4. Scott Lagasse, Jr. (12th)
5. Mike Bliss (13th)
6. Justin Allgaier (14th)
7. Michael Annett (16th)
8. Jason Keller (17th)
9. David Green (18th)
10. Morgan Shpeherd (19th)
11. Ken Butler III (20th)
12. Tony Raines (21st)
13. Jon Wes Townley (22nd)
14. Brandon Whitt (23rd)
15. DJ Kennington (24th)
16. Kertus Davis (25th)
17. Kenny Hendrick (26th)
18. Brad Keselowski (27th)
19. Stanton Barrett (28th)
20. Brian Keselowski (29th)
21. Eric McClure (30th)
22. Kenny Wallace (31st)
23. Scott Gaylord (32nd)
24. Danny O'Quinn, Jr. (33rd)
25. Michael McDowell (36th)
26. Terry Cook (37th)
27. JC Stout (38th)
28. Johnny Chapman (39th)
29. Casey Atwood (40th)
30. Justin Ashburn (41st)
31. Dennis Setzer (42nd)
32. Derrike Cope (43rd)

Points Standings

CR Top 10
1. Kyle Busch (360pts)
2. Carl Edwards (-20)
3. Kevin Harvick (-51)
4. David Ragan (-63)
4. Brian Vickers (-63)
6. Greg Biffle (-66)
7. Joey Logano (-71)
8. David Reutimann (-84)
9. Joe Nemechek (-103)
10. Michael Waltrip (-121)

NR Top 10
1. Brendan Gaughan (350pts)
2. Jason Keller (-18)
3. DJ Kennington (-72)
4. Mike Bliss (-74)
5. Jason Leffler (-79)
6. Brad Keselowski (-88)
7. Michael McDowell (-92)
8. Kenny Wallace (-93)
9. David Green (-97)
10.Steve Wallace (-101)

This is unofficial at the moment. I factored in the penalties for Harmon, Townley and O'Quinn from Daytona. Also, the smilies are 8s. I have no idea why an 8 followed by ) turns into a smiley. :confused:

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by BringBackWilkesboro

Stater Brothers 300 - Race 2 of 35

Cup Raider Results - Overall Finish in ()
1. Kyle Busch (1st)
2. Kevin Harvick (2nd)
3. Joey Logano (3rd)
4. Carl Edwards (4th)
5. David Ragan (5th)
6. Jeff Burton (6th)
7. David Reutimann (7th)
8. Brian Vickers (8th)
9. Michael Waltrip (15th)
10. Greg Biffle (34th)
11. Joe Nemechek (35th)

Nationwide Regular Results
1. Brendan Gaughan (9th)
2. Steve Wallace (10th)
3. Jason Leffler (11th)
4. Scott Lagasse, Jr. (12th)
5. Mike Bliss (13th)
6. Justin Allgaier (14th)
7. Michael Annett (16th)
8. Jason Keller (17th)
9. David Green (18th)
10. Morgan Shpeherd (19th)
11. Ken Butler III (20th)
12. Tony Raines (21st)
13. Jon Wes Townley (22nd)
14. Brandon Whitt (23rd)
15. DJ Kennington (24th)
16. Kertus Davis (25th)
17. Kenny Hendrick (26th)
18. Brad Keselowski (27th)
19. Stanton Barrett (28th)
20. Brian Keselowski (29th)
21. Eric McClure (30th)
22. Kenny Wallace (31st)
23. Scott Gaylord (32nd)
24. Danny O'Quinn, Jr. (33rd)
25. Michael McDowell (36th)
26. Terry Cook (37th)
27. JC Stout (38th)
28. Johnny Chapman (39th)
29. Casey Atwood (40th)
30. Justin Ashburn (41st)
31. Dennis Setzer (42nd)
32. Derrike Cope (43rd)

Points Standings

CR Top 10
1. Kyle Busch (360pts)
2. Carl Edwards (-20)
3. Kevin Harvick (-51)
4. David Ragan (-63)
4. Brian Vickers (-63)
6. Greg Biffle (-66)
7. Joey Logano (-71)
8. David Reutimann (-84)
9. Joe Nemechek (-103)
10. Michael Waltrip (-121)

NR Top 10
1. Brendan Gaughan (350pts)
2. Jason Keller (-1
3. DJ Kennington (-72)
4. Mike Bliss (-74)
5. Jason Leffler (-79)
6. Brad Keselowski (-8
7. Michael McDowell (-92)
8. Kenny Wallace (-93)
9. David Green (-97)
10.Steve Wallace (-101)

This is unofficial at the moment. I factored in the penalties for Harmon, Townley and O'Quinn from Daytona. Also, the smilies are 8s. I have no idea why an 8 followed by ) turns into a smiley.

down below your edit box, there's a check box that says "Disable smilies in text" .. if you check it, the smilies will disappear.

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

down below your edit box, there's a check box that says "Disable smilies in text" .. if you check it, the smilies will disappear.

Ah, simple solution. Thanks.

[Bob Tanner]

Looks good, Wilks. I'm glad to see Gonzo leading the BGN Regulars. If he were 7-8 years younger he might have a good chance at another ride in Cup. Hell, if Brendan is doing well, I might even watch one or two of the Cup Lite races.

Do you keep your stats on a spreadsheet? If not, it makes things a lot easier. If you have Excel on your drive, and want to use it, I can send you a copy of my Two Class Sheet with all the formulas pluged in. (I think I can. anyway; I've never done it before) I have mine set up to keep running totals throughout the year. All I have to do is plug in figures and then run <SORT>.

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Looks good, Wilks. I'm glad to see Gonzo leading the BGN Regulars. If he were 7-8 years younger he might have a good chance at another ride in Cup. Hell, if Brendan is doing well, I might even watch one or two of the Cup Lite races.

Looks like Brendan fits in nicely in Rusty's stuff. I look forward to watching him run with limited Cup interference, although the first real opportunity for that isn't until Nashville in June. I think Cup is off the first time they go there, so I figure they'll be showing up.

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Do you keep your stats on a spreadsheet? If not, it makes things a lot easier. If you have Excel on your drive, and want to use it, I can send you a copy of my Two Class Sheet with all the formulas pluged in. (I think I can. anyway; I've never done it before) I have mine set up to keep running totals throughout the year. All I have to do is plug in figures and then run <SORT>.

I do exactly that. I've got the full standings for both classes on a spreadsheet so all I have to do is plug in my numbers and update it. The hardest thing I have to do is figure out who gets bonus points and add them to the appropriate driver, which is pretty easy.

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Sams Town 300 - Race 3 of 35

Cup Raider Results - Overall Finish in ()
1. Greg Biffle (1st)
2. Carl Edwards (2nd)
3. Brian Vickers (3rd)
4. Dale Earnhradt, Jr. (5th)
5. Jeff Burton (10th)
6. Joe Nemechek (20th)
7. Denny Hamlin (21st)
8. David Ragan (26th)
9. Kevin Harvick (29th)
10. Kyle Busch (39th)
11. Scott Speed (40th)

Nationwide Regular Results
1. Jason Leffler (4th)
2. Michael McDowell (6th)
3. Brendan Gaughan (7th)
4. Justin Allgaier (8th)
5. Scott Lagasse, Jr (9th)
6. Scott Wimmer (11th)
7. Kenny Hendrick (12th)
8. Morgan Shpeherd (13th)
9. Kenny Wallace (14th)
10. Tony Raines (15th)
11. Eric McClure (16th)
12. Ken Butler III (17th)
13. Danny O'Quinn, Jr. (18th)
14. Brian Keselowski (19th)
15. Mike Bliss (22nd)
16. Andy Ponstien (23rd)
17. Brandon Whitt (24th)
18. Jason Keller (25th)
19. Brad Keselowski (27th)
20. Stanton Barrett (28th)
21. Steve Wallace (30th)
22. David Green (31st)
23. Michael Annett (32nd)
24. DJ Kennington (33rd)
25. Robert Richardson (34th)
26. Casey Atwood (35th)
27. Scott Gaylord (36th)
28. Kelly Bires (37th)
29. Jon Wes Townley (38th)
30. Terry Cook (41st)
31. Johnny Chapman (42nd)
32. Dennis Setzer (43rd)

Points Standings

CR Top 10
1. Carl Edwards (515pts)
2. Kyle Busch (-21)
3. Greg Biffle (-26)
4. Brian Vickers (-48)
5. Kevin Harvick (-63)
6. David Ragan (-71)
7. Joe Nemechek (-108)
8. Jeff Burton (-210)
9. Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (-214)
10. Joey Logano (-226)

NR Top 10
1. Brendan Gaughan (520pts)
2. Jason Leffler (-64)
3. Jason Keller (-79)
4. Michael McDowell (-87)
5. Justin Allgaier (-120)
6. Mike Bliss (-121)
7. Kenny Wallace (-125)
8. Scott Lagasse, Jr. (-129)
9. Tony Raines (-147)
10. DJ Kennington (-151)

Well, I actually watched yesterday's race most of the way through (first time I've done that at a cup companion race in a good 2 years) and saw most of the Cup Raiders have problems. That was a good opportunity to see Nationwide regulars have a nice battle in the top ten at the finish. Even so, it just never fails, the 3 Cup raiders that didn't have trouble at some point are the first 3 overall finishers.

Brendan Gaughan continues to show well in Rusty's equipment. 7th overall after spinning twice. He's 32 years old and deserving of another chance when Rusty goes Cup racing...

Impressive day for ARCA champ Justin Allgaier too. He was up front and beating the Cup Raiders even before the all had problems. He passed Edwards and Harvick mid race and led some laps. Nice to see that once in a while.