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Champ on Two Divisions

What NASCAR driver won championships in two different NASCAR divisions, none of which were in a series that is now called the Campingworld Truck series, Nationwide or Camping World East or West, nor what is now called the Whelan Modified Series?
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Re: Champ on Two Divisions

Red Byron?
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Red Byron?
Nope. However, Red did hold the distinction of being the champion of two major touring series in 1949. he was NASCAR's first champion AND was also champion of the [then much bigger] ASCRA (American Stock car racing Association).
But you've got the right era. Extra points if you can tell me the name of the other division. The driver in question was champ in the Grand National Series and in his career drove primarily Olds, Lincolns and Chryslers.
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Re: Champ on Two Divisions

Got it Buck Baker

He was the first back-to-back winner of the Grand National (now Sprint Cup) Championship in 1956 and 1957

and he also won the 1952 NASCAR speedway Divison championship which was nascars attempt to run n open wheel series based off Indy cars

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Re: Champ on Two Divisions

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Got it Buck Baker

He was the first back-to-back winner of the Grand National (now Sprint Cup) Championship in 1956 and 1957

and he also won the 1952 NASCAR speedway Divison championship which was nascars attempt to run n open wheel series based off Indy cars

credit goes to wikipedia
BINGO! Who says researching ain't fun?
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BINGO! Who says researching ain't fun?
You know if the Speedway division hadn't folded is it possible that NASCAR could have ended up controling all open wheel racing in the US?
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You know if the Speedway division hadn't folded is it possible that NASCAR could have ended up controling all open wheel racing in the US?
IF the economy hadn't have gone South, I believe that IRL would have been under control of NA__AR by 2014, maybe sooner.

Historical Note

Bill Sr. had no love for AAA. AAA threatened to not allow their drivers to compete in anything but AAA and, like today, there were complaints of the rising cost of racing and ticket prices. France offered open wheel racing competition, at a lower cost (he used stock engine blocks, vs the expensive Meyer-Drake engines the big cars used at that time) and he kept the attendance prices down.

What killed the whole thing was a nation wide steel strike which was called. Steel was hard to get and it was impossible for car builders to get material to build new cars. The Grand National Division took it tough then too. If you read the results from 1952 you find a whole of of drivers in 1950 and 1951 model cars.

So, the Speedway Division never got off the ground, really and I believe it only ran 5-6 races.
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IF the economy hadn't have gone South, I believe that IRL would have been under control of NA__AR by 2014, maybe sooner.

Historical Note

Bill Sr. had no love for AAA. AAA threatened to not allow their drivers to compete in anything but AAA and, like today, there were complaints of the rising cost of racing and ticket prices. France offered open wheel racing competition, at a lower cost (he used stock engine blocks, vs the expensive Meyer-Drake engines the big cars used at that time) and he kept the attendance prices down.

What killed the whole thing was a nation wide steel strike which was called. Steel was hard to get and it was impossible for car builders to get material to build new cars. The Grand National Division took it tough then too. If you read the results from 1952 you find a whole of of drivers in 1950 and 1951 model cars.

So, the Speedway Division never got off the ground, really and I believe it only ran 5-6 races.
they actually have the results of the 2 seasons they ran there were 7 races i believe the first and it was ended after 5 the 2nd
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