[Dupont4five]

I've been on this site since March, and I am one of the so-called veterns on here. I've grown to accept the fact that 95% of the fans here probably hate Jeff Gordon more then they like their own driver. Wheather it was because he kicked their favorite drivers a$$ in the 90's, or because its cool to hate Jeff or because he's just great, what ever the reason I've grown to accept it. Wheather its insults about his sexualtity, saying he just sucks or whining because he whines (even though every single driver does it), I've accepted it. But it seems pretty evident that out of maybe 10 (5%)or so Gordon fans on the site, im the only one, time after time, who defends my driver, and not one Gordon hater can say different. Im sure theres plenty of you who hate me **cough** 88fans **cough** because I probably go over-board with it but as a fan thats my job, to defend my driver. But this message is just to inform all those so-called Gordon fans how disappointed I am with you, like GMA defends Kasey, like #88 defend their driver (even though his carrer was over 5 years ago), they defend their driver when ever theirs a peep negative about their driver and I respect that. But yeah it good to praise your driver, but thats not only what a true fans responsibilty is, its also to defend them.

Thanks,
Julien

PS: This is not to bash any members, its just a reminder, thats all, thanks

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by Dupont4five

Im sure theres plenty of you who hate me

Julian, I certainly do not hate you, or anyone else on this board. However I have a MAJOR dislike for Jeff Gordon going back to when he left Bill Davis after he groomed him for Cup in the Busch series. That was a rotton thing to do, and left a sour taste in a lot of peoples mouths for Jeff.

Unfortunately, I cannot help myself to either start a thread or jump into one after he does some bonehead thing on or off the track. Just try and laugh it off as it is not a personal attack on Gordon fans..........just the man himself. He is just one of the guys some of us love to hate.

Don

[Team Yates]

Originally Posted by Dupont4five

I've been on this site since March, and I am one of the so-called veterns on here. I've grown to accept the fact that 95% of the fans here probably hate Jeff Gordon more then they like their own driver. Wheather it was because he kicked their favorite drivers a$$ in the 90's, or because its cool to hate Jeff or because he's just great, what ever the reason I've grown to accept it. Wheather its insults about his sexualtity, saying he just sucks or whining because he whines (even though every single driver does it), I've accepted it. But it seems pretty evident that out of maybe 10 (5%)or so Gordon fans on the site, im the only one, time after time, who defends my driver, and not one Gordon hater can say different. Im sure theres plenty of you who hate me **cough** 88fans **cough** because I probably go over-board with it but as a fan thats my job, to defend my driver. But this message is just to inform all those so-called Gordon fans how disappointed I am with you, like GMA defends Kasey, like #88 defend their driver (even though his carrer was over 5 years ago), they defend their driver when ever theirs a peep negative about their driver and I respect that. But yeah it good to praise your driver, but thats not only what a true fans responsibilty is, its also to defend them.

Thanks,
Julien

PS: This is not to bash any members, its just a reminder, thats all, thanks

Hey Julien,
Not to burst your little Jeffie bubble!!! But indyNASCARgirl also defends your little Jeffie!! To bad you all don't have more members here to defend him!!!! Sad but true that is just the way it is!!!! I know that I'm a member of GBA (Gordon Bashers Anonymous), don't worry it doesn't exist, I made it up!! LOL!! But if you look, you can see that my "name" is Team YATES and I really don't think that you saw me defending "my guys" a whole lot!!! We all commend you for sticking up for your guy, as you said, that is "what you are suppose to do"!! Unfortunately, for you there are not many Gordon "fans" here on this site, so I guess that you have to take the brunt of it!! And you do a pretty good job of not going off the "deep end" and bashing anybody so KUDO'S to you for defending your little Jeffie!! I guess that somebody has to do that dirty job!!! Sorry, couldn't help it!!! Vickie

[Dupont4five]

Originally Posted by Team Yates

Hey Julien,
Not to burst your little Jeffie bubble!!! But indyNASCARgirl also defends your little Jeffie!! To bad you all don't have more members here to defend him!!!! Sad but true that is just the way it is!!!! I know that I'm a member of GBA (Gordon Bashers Anonymous), don't worry it doesn't exist, I made it up!! LOL!! But if you look, you can see that my "name" is Team YATES and I really don't think that you saw me defending "my guys" a whole lot!!! We all commend you for sticking up for your guy, as you said, that is "what you are suppose to do"!! Unfortunately, for you there are not many Gordon "fans" here on this site, so I guess that you have to take the brunt of it!! And you do a pretty good job of not going off the "deep end" and bashing anybody so KUDO'S to you for defending your little Jeffie!! I guess that somebody has to do that dirty job!!! Sorry, couldn't help it!!! Vickie

All I wanted to express was that Jeff has the 2nd biggest fan base in this sport and Im the only person defending the guy, I can tell you about 10 members here who all they do is say "Jeff Gordons awesome" or "Jeff Gordon, 4-Time Champ" but when it comes to telling it how it is, theiy run scared. Quality, I think you scared them off??? Thats all, thats all I wanted to say.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Dupont4five

I've been on this site since March, and I am one of the so-called veterns on here. I've grown to accept the fact that 95% of the fans here probably hate Jeff Gordon more then they like their own driver. Wheather it was because he kicked their favorite drivers a$$ in the 90's, or because its cool to hate Jeff or because he's just great, what ever the reason I've grown to accept it. Wheather its insults about his sexualtity, saying he just sucks or whining because he whines (even though every single driver does it), I've accepted it. But it seems pretty evident that out of maybe 10 (5%)or so Gordon fans on the site, im the only one, time after time, who defends my driver, and not one Gordon hater can say different. Im sure theres plenty of you who hate me **cough** 88fans **cough** because I probably go over-board with it but as a fan thats my job, to defend my driver. But this message is just to inform all those so-called Gordon fans how disappointed I am with you, like GMA defends Kasey, like #88 defend their driver (even though his carrer was over 5 years ago), they defend their driver when ever theirs a peep negative about their driver and I respect that. But yeah it good to praise your driver, but thats not only what a true fans responsibilty is, its also to defend them.

Thanks,
Julien

PS: This is not to bash any members, its just a reminder, thats all, thanks

Julien, got nothing against you. I give you props for defending your driver. As you said that is what you are supposed to do. I give you even bigger props for taking every bit of what we give you on this forum and bringing it back on us without bashing the members. And just for the record I hate ol Gordo because of the Bill Davis issue and his whining(yes I know all the other drivers do it), but he's the worst. In my opinion of course.

Dustin

[carlab68]

I don't hate any driver. I've got my favorites and, like you, I'll defend them. Then there are some that drive me so insane I really wish they weren't on the track. Jeff is somewhere in the middle for me. I don't dislike him, but he's not one of my favorites either.

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by Dupont4five

I can tell you about 10 members here who all they do is say "Jeff Gordons awesome" or "Jeff Gordon, 4-Time Champ" but when it comes to telling it how it is, theiy run scared.

Maybe it's because they have no defense for Gordons actions.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Dupont4five

Quality, I think you scared them off???

Who, little oh me? Nah, they just the ones that couldn't stand the heat, so they got out of the kitchen.

[WVGrandma4Kasey]

Originally Posted by Dupont4five

I've been on this site since March, and I am one of the so-called veterns on here. I've grown to accept the fact that 95% of the fans here probably hate Jeff Gordon more then they like their own driver. Wheather it was because he kicked their favorite drivers a$$ in the 90's, or because its cool to hate Jeff or because he's just great, what ever the reason I've grown to accept it. Wheather its insults about his sexualtity, saying he just sucks or whining because he whines (even though every single driver does it), I've accepted it. But it seems pretty evident that out of maybe 10 (5%)or so Gordon fans on the site, im the only one, time after time, who defends my driver, and not one Gordon hater can say different. Im sure theres plenty of you who hate me **cough** 88fans **cough** because I probably go over-board with it but as a fan thats my job, to defend my driver. But this message is just to inform all those so-called Gordon fans how disappointed I am with you, like GMA defends Kasey, like #88 defend their driver (even though his carrer was over 5 years ago), they defend their driver when ever theirs a peep negative about their driver and I respect that. But yeah it good to praise your driver, but thats not only what a true fans responsibilty is, its also to defend them.

Thanks,
Julien

PS: This is not to bash any members, its just a reminder, thats all, thanks

Hang in there. Your not alone, he gets votes to show he has the second largest fan base after Jr. I can't afford to bash anyone, I have to use my energy to support my guy.
You can borrow my catinator any time.

[Nevadastars]

Portrait of a traitor.......

[bautch24]

Thank god hes not driving a pos ford or else he would never win

[Wisconsin11Fan]

Originally Posted by bautch24

Thank god hes not driving a pos ford or else he would never win

The 17 doesn't seem to have a problem winning in a POS Ford lately, does he?

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by bautch24

Thank god hes not driving a pos ford or else he would never win ?? (My "??'s")

So, as I interpret what you just said, I take it you believe that Jeff doesn't have enough talent to drive anything but a NASCAR-modified GM-like product into Victory Lane?

I give him a bit more credit than that. While I lost a lot of respect for Jeffie when he stabbed Bill Davis in the butt.

You might be too young to remember so let me enlighten you: Bill brought Jeff up to BGN because Larry Nuber, who was an announcer for NASCAR on TNN and who saw a lot of talent in young Jeff, promoted him with gusto to Hendrick, Roush, Gary Bechtel and Yates. Bill Davis took him and had Jeff on a race-to-race deal for the first half of the season. Jeff proved himself, and with a handshake and a signed letter of intent to continue with Bill Davis, Davis acquired major sponsorship and a large amount of backing from Ford.

Then in early August (I believe it was) of 1992, Bill was watching the local news on Charlotte TV and the sports reporter reported that "New phenom driver," Jeff Gordon who had recently won a race for car owner Bill Davis, had signed a long-term contract with Rick Hendrick and a major sponsor.

This was how Davis found out Jeffie had indicated that his handshake was worth so much cow manure and the guy who took a flyer on him and let him wreck a fair amount of cars getting experience was left out in the dark. He never even had the decency to tell Bill he had an offer from Hendrick (who stole a driver from a fellow owner and whose "miracle cancer cure" tells me all I need to know about this guy).

I know. Many people who aren't from my generation think you do whatever it takes to make money (hookers have this same philosophy), but I come from an era when a man's handshake is his bond and failure to live up to said handshake is an obvious indication of flawed character.

As a driver, Jeff Gordon is absolutely one of the best and I respect his talent greatly. However, I have yet to have a single person adequately defend Jeffie's unethical behaviour to my satisfaction. Care to try?

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

So, as I interpret what you just said, I take it you believe that Jeff doesn't have enough talent to drive anything but a NASCAR-modified GM-like product into Victory Lane?

Thak you Bob, I was going to spike that ball myself, but you got to the lob first.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Quality88

Thak you Bob, I was going to spike that ball myself, but you got to the lob first.

Yeah, but as usual, I bloviated badly. I took thirty words to say what I could have in ten. It's a cross I bear. <sigh> <VBG>