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Originally Posted by Quality88

One of my cousins said he was an aclolholic at one time, if that's true, that would explain the aging appearance.

Mark did say he used to abuse alcohol.

[KENVOL]

As far as I'm concerned Gordon still owes plenty of drivers out there a little merry go round ride. I've seen plenty of people wreck him on purpose. Stewart comes to mind real fast. Anyway the reason most people hate Gordon is he is better than the rest of the drivers. No one is close. He is the best thing to happen to NASCAR since Big E. (and I'm not an Earnheart fan)

[oncea3fan]

Originally Posted by nailhead

Have no idea about the alcohol thing with Martin, but I thought of maybe another reason he looks like he does. Given all the Cup races and Busch races, and Truck races he has run, he has probably been scared to death many more times than the rest of the drivers out there. On this note, I know it would not be an official record, but does anyone know who is the all time leader in combined starts (Busch and Cup?). I don't know, but I would think Martin would have to be close to the top.

dave marcus and dick trickle would be ery high on the list I think.

wait a minute .............Kenny Shrader!!!!.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by KENVOL

Anyway the reason most people hate Gordon is he is better than the rest of the drivers. No one is close. He is the best thing to happen to NASCAR since Big E.

http://www.smileycentral.com/sig.jsp...p=ZNxpt237YYUS

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by KENVOL

Anyway the reason most people hate Gordon is he is better than the rest of the drivers. No one is close. He is the best thing to happen to NASCAR since Big E.

[pissypat]

Originally Posted by bautch24

Welcome Pissypat AMAZING another Gordon hater who ever woulda thunk it

Gordon rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where in my comment did I say I "HATED" Gordon. Because I make a statement of what I heard him say on J Johnson's XM show doesn't mean I hate him. I was terribly disappointed in him and what he said.

But my main comment was why Nascar didn't do to him as they have others. The problem is Nascar. Last year and part of this year I was rooting for Jeffy, and then he started opening his mouth 'again'. Sorry, just can't support someone who acts like a whinny little girl when things don't go his way. He's the one that got out of his car (with his helmet still on) and shoved Kenseth when he was walking over to appologize. That I felt was very childish. If he was intending to start a fight, at least take the helmet off and be a man about it.

So please don't accuse me of something I never said. To be honest with you I have several racers that I like. Yes, I am a Jr. fan, and a Kahne, Hamlin, Edwards, Petty, etc.

Now, why can't Nascar follow through with their own rules???????

[WVGrandma4Kasey]

Originally Posted by oncea3fan

dave marcus and dick trickle would be ery high on the list I think.

wait a minute .............Kenny Shrader!!!!.

I think Kenny looks pretty good.
1st year: 1985 Ht: 5'9" Wt: 200Born: 5/29/1955Hometown: Fenton, MissouriTeam: Wood Brothers RacingCrew Chief: Michael 'Fatback' McSwain
FOX Sports: Ken Schrader

[rmjvol]

Originally Posted by pissypat

Where in my comment did I say I "HATED" Gordon. Because I make a statement of what I heard him say on J Johnson's XM show doesn't mean I hate him.

So please don't accuse me of something I never said.

Hi, pissypat. I don't think bautch24 meant any offense by calling you a Gordon hater and I don't think it was meant to imply that you said the words "I hate Gordon!"

I think it was more from reading all your posts where you refer to "Jeffy" and that you "can't stand Jeffy" and the "whinny little girl" and "biggest whiniest cry baby on the circuit" comments you've made about Gordon in this thread and others.

I think bautch was just looking for a shorter way to say:

Welcome Pissypat AMAZING another (person who calls Jeff Gordon several disparaging names and says they can't stand him) who ever woulda thunk it

We've got a very tight policy against slamming other members but I think you might have interpreted bautch24's comment the wrong way.

btw, I'm happy to welcome you as well Look forward to chatting more with you.