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Old 07-16-2006, 09:27 AM
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Once again, the trucks put on what might be the best race of the weekend.

Congratulations to Jack Sprague for a veteran move on the restart in the green/white/checkered finish. Also congrats to Erik Darnell for almost getting the win in an unsponsored truck! I enjoyed watching his dad drive in the Chicago area years ago and hope the kid makes it to Cup.

I was hoping to see Marcus Ambrose, the Tasmanian Devil , have another good race but... the kid still has some major learning to do. But when/if he ever gets a Cup ride, it'll be a real hoot!

If you "Newbies," want to see what NASCAR racing used to be kind of like (where guy who weren't nationally famous drove to win, not merely to collect points), I suggest you catch the truck racing. You'll see some driver who aren't afflicted with teenage acne, who aren't polished sponsor shills and professional interviewees, and who don't go into cardiac arrest if someone dares to bump their precious car. You know, racing where, when a driver tries to hold his position and keeps a faster car from passing him, it's termed "racing;" not "blocking" and "dirty driving."

It's the closest thing to real stock car racing you'll find on TV.
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Old 07-16-2006, 09:50 AM
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Re: CTS -Memphis

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Once again, the trucks put on what might be the best race of the weekend.

Congratulations to Jack Sprague for a veteran move on the restart in the green/white/checkered finish. Also congrats to Erik Darnell for almost getting the win in an unsponsored truck! I enjoyed watching his dad drive in the Chicago area years ago and hope the kid makes it to Cup.

I was hoping to see Marcus Ambrose, the Tasmanian Devil , have another good race but... the kid still has some major learning to do. But when/if he ever gets a Cup ride, it'll be a real hoot!

If you "Newbies," want to see what NASCAR racing used to be kind of like (where guy who weren't nationally famous drove to win, not merely to collect points), I suggest you catch the truck racing. You'll see some driver who aren't afflicted with teenage acne, who aren't polished sponsor shills and professional interviewees, and who don't go into cardiac arrest if someone dares to bump their precious car. You know, racing where, when a driver tries to hold his position and keeps a faster car from passing him, it's termed "racing;" not "blocking" and "dirty driving."

It's the closest thing to real stock car racing you'll find on TV.
Thats a great point. Thats why I cant wait to Mark Martin in the trucks next year (and a few more to come this year). Its a driver i have followed for years competing in the most pure form of racing today. I love it.
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Old 07-16-2006, 10:13 AM
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Re: CTS -Memphis

Great show again.

I wonder whats going on with Musgrave? He's been worse than mid-pack for far too long?

Erik Darnell...he pretty good.
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Old 07-16-2006, 10:13 AM
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Thats a great point. Thats why I cant wait to Mark Martin in the trucks next year (and a few more to come this year). Its a driver i have followed for years competing in the most pure form of racing today. I love it.
I concur about Mark.

I may miss a Cup race and I have quit watching Cup Lite altogether. But I'd give up a Scooby Snack to watch the CTS. Not as good as the local tracks but close enough for me.
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Old 07-16-2006, 10:22 AM
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Great show again.

I wonder whats going on with Musgrave? He's been worse than mid-pack for far too long?

Erik Darnell...he pretty good.
Excellent question on Ted. I think a combination of being 50 yr old, and the way Jim Smith and Ultra Motor sports sold him down the river last season (The very same jerk who threw Casey Atwood to the wolves, if you remember) kind of took a lot of spark out of Ted. Maybe the fact that he's a cancer survivor gave Musgrave a different perspective on taking chances which may get one folded, spindled and mutilated?
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Old 07-16-2006, 01:53 PM
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I was rooting for Darnell last night...2nd place very good for a rookie. his win will surely be coming.

He was one of the Rousch DriverX boys. Him and Danny O'Quin came out of that reality show.....am going to follow them both.

I just started watching the truck racing this year and I agree with you Bob...none of that flash in the pan sheet there
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none of that flash in the pan sheet there
Exactly. You hit somebody in a truck, its good racing and you laugh about it after the race. Hit someone in cup lite or cup, everybody whines. Maybe we could get Ross or Lefty to start up a truck series sub forum. Ill post something in the suggestions place.

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Old 07-18-2006, 01:35 PM
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Exactly. You hit somebody in a truck, its good racing and you laugh about it after the race. Hit someone in cup lite or cup, everybody whines. Maybe we could get Ross or Lefty to start up a truck series sub forum. Ill post something in the suggestions place.
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I think CTS is the closest thing, that NASCAR promotes, to NASCAR racing the way it used to be that exists today. While the "Driver Fans" aren't interested in CTS because "I don't know any of the drivers!" (Waaaaaaah!!!), I believe it's the type of entertaining racing that race fans actually want.

Top give an example, but the kid who does the evening NASCAR show on XM, was raving how great a race the "Expanded Paper Clip 300" Sunday was because "Of the drama over who was and who wasn't going to run out of fuel..."
Maybe it's just the curmudgeon in me but I, personally, don't watch a race for "Drama." If I want drama I'll go to blockbuster and rent Citizen Caine, or pick up a tome of Shakespere...I watch racing to see racing!
Watching racing for drama is like watching paint dry to appreciate colours. You get the result but I question the validity of the mode.
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Old 07-18-2006, 01:45 PM
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Re: CTS -Memphis

Speaking of watching racing to see racing, that Hooters Pro Cup is pretty good. Saturday nightshort tracks at a higher level. I saw one of there races at Hickory Motor Speedway and it blew me away. 3 Guys fighting for the lead amid a bunch of lapped cars. It was great.
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Re: CTS -Memphis

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Speaking of watching racing to see racing, that Hooters Pro Cup is pretty good. Saturday nightshort tracks at a higher level. I saw one of there races at Hickory Motor Speedway and it blew me away. 3 Guys fighting for the lead amid a bunch of lapped cars. It was great.
And they don't call a caution for every little wreck. Also 1/2 the commericals, check your speed channel listings. Oh I forgot to add right now I'm watching late model on clay. Real racing.
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Old 07-18-2006, 04:54 PM
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Speaking of watching racing to see racing, that Hooters Pro Cup is pretty good. Saturday nightshort tracks at a higher level. I saw one of there races at Hickory Motor Speedway and it blew me away. 3 Guys fighting for the lead amid a bunch of lapped cars. It was great.
Hooter's Pro Cup quickly took the place of the Slim-Jim All Pro Series. That used to be a very good series.
ASA also used to good, back when we began it but Rex grew a little beyond his means, went to spec engines ans fiberglass bodies, then he sold out completely. I don't even know if ASA is still running? Anyone?
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Re: CTS -Memphis

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Hooter's Pro Cup quickly took the place of the Slim-Jim All Pro Series. That used to be a very good series.
ASA also used to good, back when we began it but Rex grew a little beyond his means, went to spec engines ans fiberglass bodies, then he sold out completely. I don't even know if ASA is still running? Anyone?
Last I new it was. They still have the ASA logo on the Stafford Speedway Website. And once again granny, you make a great point. A few years ago, 10 cautions was alot. Now it happens about every week because Nascar throws a caution if somebody so much as gets sideways of the corner.
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A few years ago, 10 cautions was alot. Now it happens about every week because Nascar throws a caution if somebody so much as gets sideways of the corner.
Are we saying NASCAR uses yellow flags to orchestrate the races? OUR NASCAR??!!
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Are we saying NASCAR uses yellow flags to orchestrate the races? OUR NASCAR??!!
I dont by into Nascar orchestrating things (not completely anyway), but it does make you think. Maybe one reason they decided to freeze the field at the moment of caution. If someone like, say, Jeff Gordon spins out, the caution flies and he ends up losing just a few spots.
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Old 07-18-2006, 06:19 PM
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I think CTS is the closest thing, that NASCAR promotes, to NASCAR racing the way it used to be that exists today.
I agree cause you can actually beat the fenders off those trucks and still be in contention for the win. I watched a truck race at Kentucky. It was awesome. 3 of the top ten were beat all to hell, and still racin hard. There also seems to be more respect between drivers (atleast to me anyways).
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