[wardfan]

why are there so many empty seats for the busch races?

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by wardfan

why are there so many empty seats for the busch races?

A number of reasons
(1) Cup Lite (after the last couple of years I can't bring myself to call it Busch Grand National) was started to become a training ground for future Cup drivers. Historically, "minor league" sports venues aren't as popular as the "major leagues."
(2) Cup Lite races are an additional cost for the weekend race attendee. With Cup tickets being extremely high, lodging out of sight, overpriced souvenir crap, not to mention the cost of food and drink, many fans have their American Express max'd out and just plain can't afford the extra race.
(3) At companion Cup races, the many of the local fans are working on a Saturday afternoon and just can't make the Cup Lite race.
(4) Most Cup tracks have a lot of seating and the number of empties are exaggerated, visually.
You don't always have a lot of empty Cup Lite seats. Nashville and Kentucky are always sold out. I believe Milwaukee and Memphis are also either sold out or very close to being S.O.
NASCAR has tried to bolster Cup Lite races by allowing the Cup Raiders to use the race as an additional practice session, and allowing the Cup Raider to literally steal much needed prize money, not to mention experience from the lesser experienced Cup Lite regulars. Not only do the Cup Raiders drive, but NASCAR, in its infinite wisdom, allows them to use their Cup crews and crew chiefs and Cup team technology to compete against the lesser-knowns.
Truly a very sad, sad state of affairs. Another area where NASCAR needs to think hard about making changes.

[TN_Gal]

Don't be misled by the attendance .Sometime the Busch races can be more exciting than the cup race the following day. April 2005 Dega Busch race was great!! Casey Mears (not Stewart) went airborne!!

Also, todays Busch race is turning out to be a real winner too...

[WVGrandma4Kasey]

Old fliper won again! for you newbies thars Carl Edwards or Opie.

[wardfan]

I figured it was about money, but that was what seems strange to me. With so many empty seats and a large portion of the cups drivers running in busch I would think they would discount the tickets to get butts in the seats. Of course discount and NASCAR is probably an oxymoron but you would think a half price seat to put a butt in it would be better than an empty one.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by TN_Gal

Don't be misled by the attendance .Sometime the Busch races can be more exciting than the cup race the following day. April 2005 Dega Busch race was great!! Stewart went airborne!!

Also, todays Busch race is turning out to be a real winner too...

2006, I was there, I saw it live, and that race was as packed as the cup race. and I was sittin amongst Gordon haters, it was great.

[TN_Gal]

Originally Posted by wardfan

I figured it was about money, but that was what seems strange to me. With so many empty seats and a large portion of the cups drivers running in busch I would think they would discount the tickets to get butts in the seats. Of course discount and NASCAR is probably an oxymoron but you would think a half price seat to put a butt in it would be better than an empty one.

Busch race tix are considerably less than Cup tickets.

Depending on where you are sitting ... I usually pay 125 for cup and around 45 for Busch for the same seat. Multiply that times 2 people and add 225 per nite for a hotel

[Nevadastars]

TN_Gal, I just noticed your signature..............and I LOVE IT!.

[Quality88]

I payed $60 dollars for both races at DEGA, and $319 for 3 nights at a hotel. Not to mention whatever I spent on souveniers.

[TN_Gal]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

TN_Gal, I just noticed your signature..............and I LOVE IT!.

Tahnks,,,,yhat was the Jaegermiester talking last nite .Tonite is JD and Fosters.....who knows what I;ll think off. Just got up from a nappy so I ready to go...boogity-boogity-boo

Heres the recap from the Aptil 2005 Arronos 312 Busch race...IT WAS WORTH WAITING EVERY MINUTE OF THE 3 HOUR RAIN DELAY.....
Truex came out on top!!



TALLADEGA, Ala. -- After a backbreaking 10 cautions, it may take days to clean up the mass of sheet metal littering the Busch Series garage at Talladega.
Only a quarter of the field escaped without damage in Saturday's Aaron's 312, and half of the three-hour event was spent under the yellow flag.
Even the winner, Martin Truex Jr., had damage after he ran into a Lap-17 crash that involved 16 cars.
The race, delayed three hours by rain, was on its 10th green-flag lap -- 18th overall -- when the field piled up in Turn 1, sending tempers into a boiling point.
It all started when Mike Wallace and Casey Mears touched as the field went three-wide into Turn 1. Mears was shoved into J.J. Yeley, which sent Yeley into the wall. A demotion derby ensured.
The wreck involved three of the top four in Busch Series points, including leader Carl Edwards, who's Ford sustained heavy front-end damage.
Edwards entered Talladega with nine top-10s in a row, having completed every lap in the Busch Series this season.
He completed 47 laps on Saturday. He entered the day with a 156-point lead, and since so many cars also suffered damage, he lost only nine points.
Clint Bowyer limped home 19th and took over second place from Reed Sorenson, who was also involved in the Lap 18 accident.
"It's really hard to dodge that stuff," said Edwards. "This is pretty bad but we're leading the points because we have got a great team."
"I thought we were going to make it through," Edwards said. "The 18 (J.J. Yeley) hit the wall and started coming back down and I thought, ' I am going to sneak right around him and miss this whole deal,' and somebody else hit him and it was over with."
Yeley arguably took the hardest hit. After he bounced off the wall, half the field seemingly crashed into him.
"The first hit into the wall wasn't too bad," said Yeley, who was uninjured. "I know what a pinball feels like. And it's not real good."
Both Yeley and Nextel Cup regular Kyle Busch said that cars were rushing to the front, which helped trigger the crash.
"Six laps into the race. Kind of stupid," Busch said. "I had a pretty decent view of it. I don't know who got into the 09 (Mike Wallace), but the first thing I saw was the 09 getting bounced around and turned sideways. It all escalated from there."
"(It was) stupid out there. I guess you can see something like that coming," said Yeley. "There was still a long way to go. We're going to have to pit regardless. A lot of anxiousness out there and guys not using their heads."
Mears was later eliminated after barrel-rolling his Dodge in a four-car crash on Lap 83.
The wreck, which occurred at the start-finish line, started when Joe Nemechek turned into rookie Denny Hamlin, who careened into Mears.
All three has been in the top 10 most of the day. The crash also claimed the car of Paul Menard, who led 25 laps.
All four went to the infield care center, where they were treated and released.

[Quality88]

Turkey and coke..... Nice call on the JD TN

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Play me a song about a ramblin man, put ole Jim Beam in my hand.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by BringBackWilkesboro

Play me a song about a ramblin man, put ole Jim Beam in my hand.

Cheers BringBack, Cheers.... and CRANK THE HANK

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Is it me, or have most of my posts tonight been about drinking and Hank?

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by BringBackWilkesboro

Is it me, or have most of my posts tonight been about drinking and Hank?

I don't see anything wrong with it, it fits in with Nascar, as far as I'm concerned.