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Old 06-05-2007, 05:35 AM
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:36 AM
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The website is up and running!!!! No store!!
Here's a picture of his new shop, I was at the "old" one on Dwelle Street!!

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Old 07-03-2007, 05:46 AM
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Yates Won't Sell Team: Robert Yates [#38 & #88] has broken off discussions with potential investors into Robert Yates Racing and will remain independent, focusing his efforts on improving the team's performance. And if he's not successful at the task, Yates could step away from the sport entirely, the car owner said Saturday morning at New Hampshire. "I pretty much sent a letter to everybody and said right now I'm not interested in selling or anybody investing," Yates said prior to Happy Hour practice. "I'm just going to try and focus on performance. … I'm pretty much really tired of spending too much time working on something that doesn't benefit anything. … Right now, the thing I don't need is money. The thing I need is performance, and I haven't found a person to bring me performance. That's what I'm looking for, just trying to focus on doing what I'm doing." And that means no co-owner, outside partner or investor, at least for now.(SPEEDtv.com)(6-30-2007)

Maybe, just maybe we will/can move in the right direction without all the distractions and hoopla!! Robert, get in there and slap it back into shape!! I guess the big question at this point is, where exactly is the lack of performance?!? Is it the drivers, the cars, the crew chiefs? Maybe a small combination of all? I don't know but I wish I could do something to help with the issues!!
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:46 AM
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Yates Won't Sell Team: Robert Yates [#38 & #88] I guess the big question at this point is, where exactly is the lack of performance?!? Is it the drivers, the cars, the crew chiefs? Maybe a small combination of all? I don't know but I wish I could do something to help with the issues!!

At this point it just may be possible that the "problem" is everywhere. Teams (sport, business, event, etc.) can enter a level/period of complete lack of confidence and belief in their individual and collective ability to perform. It's a friggin' cancer that often requires a nuke to rid the body of it. Yates and Company may be exactly there.

Possible at this point they've difficulty seeing the benefit of the Roush relationship. Rudd's contribution remains hidden/obscure/invisible. The 38's drivin' like a rookie - and that's not a negative, but they need something more in the stable at this time - and this is not a throw out the 38 driver comment.

There was a quote in a thread within the past few days that was attributed to Robert Yates to the effect that invesment firms (bankers) that he had met with contributed little to the world other than deposits in the restroom. Don't know the accuracy of the quote, but first thought here when read was that Robert was losing it. Public statements like that are more likely to help any/all types of investor AWAY from contribution or involvement. Couldn't help but consider the possibility that the comment (again if real/accurate) could have been "sour grapes". Robert may have been told - "we're looking to invest in a winner, and lately you ain't it'. In any case, made wonder if any business sense remained.

In closing - want to state again (have done so many times in the past), we see Yates Racing as a standard bearer for NASCAR/stock car racing, and constantly hope they can once again find their way. Unfortunately right now on Sunday's, they're more "in the way".
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Old 07-03-2007, 09:26 AM
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Yates Won't Sell Team: Robert Yates [#38 & #88] has broken off discussions with potential investors into Robert Yates Racing and will remain independent, focusing his efforts on improving the team's performance. And if he's not successful at the task, Yates could step away from the sport entirely, the car owner said Saturday morning at New Hampshire. "I pretty much sent a letter to everybody and said right now I'm not interested in selling or anybody investing," Yates said prior to Happy Hour practice. "I'm just going to try and focus on performance. … I'm pretty much really tired of spending too much time working on something that doesn't benefit anything. … Right now, the thing I don't need is money. The thing I need is performance, and I haven't found a person to bring me performance. That's what I'm looking for, just trying to focus on doing what I'm doing." And that means no co-owner, outside partner or investor, at least for now.(SPEEDtv.com)(6-30-2007)

Maybe, just maybe we will/can move in the right direction without all the distractions and hoopla!! Robert, get in there and slap it back into shape!! I guess the big question at this point is, where exactly is the lack of performance?!? Is it the drivers, the cars, the crew chiefs? Maybe a small combination of all? I don't know but I wish I could do something to help with the issues!!
Yatesie, I think Robert is in what may prove to be a terminal state of denial. I applaud him loudly for his lofty ideals and wanting to hold fast to what would be ultimately good for NASCAR and for NASCAR competition. Somehow I deeply believe that Robert Yates is the kind of guy who would agree with me IRT my recently discussed concept of character and ethical behaviour.

But that's that way things WERE. The way thing ARE is that Robert, and a number of us fans are anachronisms, slightly out of step, and out of touch, with today's "more improved" society. Robert, and a number of us, unfortunately still dwell in an era when racing was a contest, not a "TV Event." We prefer a time when races were won on the track, by drivers, not in wind tunnels by aerodynamics engineers. You might even remember when much of a car's success depended on the talent of the driver and the ingenuity of the mechanic, and not how much money a high-rolling investor's group could pour into the race team.

Yates' problem isn't the drivers. Rudd hasn't forgotten how to drive. Gilliland is more than an adequate driver. It isn't the crew chief. How does one improve on a crew chief coming from the Parrott Family? Robert's problem is probably Robert.

He continues to operate much as things were done a decade and a half ago. He's not reaching out to get investors like Bill Gates or Warren Buffett. He hasn't amassed a shop which resembles some small third-world country with multitudes of employees and teams. I don't know for sure but I bet the number of degreed engineers he employs is less than have that of some of his fellow team owners.

I think Robert is merely trying to win by doing the things which have always worked, and he's getting his teeth kicked in doing it. My feelings for the matter can be summed up in a single word; sad.
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Old 07-03-2007, 03:52 PM
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Sadly Bob you have once again nailed it. Yates truly is one of us in that he wants to win the races the old fashion way. Unfortunately he is not willing to be a part of the 3 hour commercial that interjects a few laps of NASCAR.

The Rousch/Fenway deal is probably just the tip of the iceberg for tomorrows NASCAR. Once Wall Street finds that it will gather up a whole new breed of investors they will be all over NASCAR. NASCAR is no longer that race track 3 miles out of town on what used to be farmer Browns corn field. It's big business now.
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The Rousch/Fenway deal is probably just the tip of the iceberg for tomorrows NASCAR. Once Wall Street finds that it will gather up a whole new breed of investors they will be all over NASCAR. NASCAR is no longer that race track 3 miles out of town on what used to be farmer Browns corn field. It's big business now.
That's something I hadn't given any thought to, but now that you mention it, I feel those types of moves are inevitable.

David Letterman already co-owns an IRL team and it's becoming clear those types of people are coming closer to NASCAR. We've got Hall of Fame Racing, we have Roush-Fenway (I prefer Boston Roush Sox), Bobby Ginn bought MB2...

Pretty soon we're going to see Gibbs/Leno racing and Yates/Imus racing (both of which are more likely than one may think) and then the big wall street types will catch on. Listen to the money talk, my friends, but keep your eyes on the track.
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That's something I hadn't given any thought to, but now that you mention it, I feel those types of moves are inevitable.

David Letterman already co-owns an IRL team and it's becoming clear those types of people are coming closer to NASCAR. We've got Hall of Fame Racing, we have Roush-Fenway (I prefer Boston Roush Sox), Bobby Ginn bought MB2...

Pretty soon we're going to see Gibbs/Leno racing and Yates/Imus racing (both of which are more likely than one may think) and then the big wall street types will catch on. Listen to the money talk, my friends, but keep your eyes on the track.
Trump Racing?...... S%#t next will have WWE racin.... that would be as bad as wcw sponsoring a monster truck with driverX and his sidekick that spoke for him
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That's something I hadn't given any thought to, but now that you mention it, I feel those types of moves are inevitable.

David Letterman already co-owns an IRL team and it's becoming clear those types of people are coming closer to NASCAR. We've got Hall of Fame Racing, we have Roush-Fenway (I prefer Boston Roush Sox), Bobby Ginn bought MB2...

Pretty soon we're going to see Gibbs/Leno racing and Yates/Imus racing (both of which are more likely than one may think) and then the big wall street types will catch on. Listen to the money talk, my friends, but keep your eyes on the track.
Why did you use some crusty, vile old man to be with Yates?!?
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