[vincesanity82]

Joey Logano is going to have to wait a few weeks before he gets back behind the wheel of a Joe Gibbs Toyota. Contractual obligations with Old Spice have Tony Stewart in the No. 20 at Loudon. Logano will not race at Chicago and, for some reason, he has not been approved to race at Daytona. So he won't be back in the Nationwide Series until July 19 at Gateway International Raceway. Can someone please tell me how the likes of Larry Gunselman can get approved to race at Daytona and Logano can't? It makes no sense to me. -- Southern Pines Pilot


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[DOF_power]

I just don't get this B*.
He's right I'd like an explanation too.

[BiscuitMan]

NASCAR has a way of determining if a driver is "qualified" to drive Daytona or Talladega. I don't know exactly what it is. But, they look at the tracks the driver has been on. I don't believe Joey Lagano has been on a near 2 mile super speedway.

Larry Gunselman has participated at Daytona and Talladega 11 times in Cup, Nationwide and CTS vehicles. He has experience that (in my opinion) would qualify him for a Nationwide race at Daytona.

[Bob Tanner]

Yes, I know this kid is The Second Coming. Yes, I am aware that to even suggest that he isn't ready to run a NA__AR's highest level is a sin which will condemn my mortal soul to eternity in Hell's Kitchen. I also am cognizant that Little Joe is a combination of Junior, Jeffie, David Pearson, JFK, Ghandi, George Patton and Rin Tin Tin all rolled into one.

But, he still hasn't turned a wheel in a Cup car on a track of a mile or longer in length. Neither did Juan Pablo or Dario Franchitti either, but they both had major series championship on their resumés and they are both older. I am also very aware that age means absolutely nothing, zilch, zero-point-nothing and if some ten year old has the ability, then NA__AR should allow booster seats to be put in the cars so that he can go out there and mix it up and give everyone a really good feeling.

NA__AR, for once, has made a very correct call. (IMNSVHO, of course.)

[vincesanity82]

Originally Posted by BiscuitMan

NASCAR has a way of determining if a driver is "qualified" to drive Daytona or Talladega. I don't know exactly what it is. But, they look at the tracks the driver has been on. I don't believe Joey Lagano has been on a near 2 mile super speedway.

Larry Gunselman has participated at Daytona and Talladega 11 times in Cup, Nationwide and CTS vehicles. He has experience that (in my opinion) would qualify him for a Nationwide race at Daytona.

does anyone know how nascar determines this?

[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by vincesanity82

does anyone know how nascar determines this?

No. But we've had responsibility to train and then determine readiness of a newbie to make attempt at full competitive event/level at other levels iin the sport. Likely not totally different, but we'll wait for the knowlege based facts and definition before offering any more.

After all, we always want to learn something new too.

Outta here ---- pool time.

[saltysenior]

Originally Posted by vincesanity82

does anyone know how nascar determines this?

i doubt it ,but maybe common sense ?????

[vincesanity82]

Originally Posted by salysenior

i doubt it ,but maybe common sense ?????

if nascar had common sense they would approve him to race, he's got a good chance of winning..

[jks812]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

But, he still hasn't turned a wheel in a Cup car on a track of a mile or longer in length.

Just a quick question. I understand he hasn't run on one of these tracks before. What does he have to do to get the experience on one if they won't let him on one because he's never been on one? I mean I don't understand that.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by vincesanity82

does anyone know how nascar determines this?

It all goes about what tracks a driver has been at that are near or exceed said track... I'll give you an example..... Boris Said wasn't originally allowed to run a Bud Shootout I think 2 years ago, but he raced in the ARCA series there and got approval to wheel the cup car at Daytona. I think (don't quote me) that Juan Pablo did the same as well. It was their performances behind the wheel in those races that got them in to dance.

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by Quality88

It all goes about what tracks a driver has been at that are near or exceed said track... I'll give you an example..... Boris Said wasn't originally allowed to run a Bud Shootout I think 2 years ago, but he raced in the ARCA series there and got approval to wheel the cup car at Daytona. I think (don't quote me) that Juan Pablo did the same as well. It was their performances behind the wheel in those races that got them in to dance.

Bingo. He doesn't have enough experience to run that track. To my knowlege, he is Zero draft time in.

The guy has plenty of time to learn that skill.

NASCAR makes this call for safety. It would be easy for them to say that he can run, and take advantage of the fact that folks want to see him run.

I support them not letting him run this race.

Once in a while they get it right.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by vincesanity82

if nascar had common sense they would approve him to race, he's got a good chance of winning..

I know you must have had a big grin on your face when you wrote this one Vince. Richard Petty has a chance of winning a race also. With his record of victories I'd have to give the edge to Richard. <grin>

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Phils20

Bingo. He doesn't have enough experience to run that track. To my knowlege, he is Zero draft time in.

The guy has plenty of time to learn that skill.

NASCAR makes this call for safety. It would be easy for them to say that he can run, and take advantage of the fact that folks want to see him run.

I support them not letting him run this race.

Once in a while they get it right.

That makes exactly two (2) of us.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by jks812

Just a quick question. I understand he hasn't run on one of these tracks before. What does he have to do to get the experience on one if they won't let him on one because he's never been on one? I mean I don't understand that.

Running the Cup cars on tracks on a mile or longer. NA__AR terms these tracks "Superspeedways." I presume that they want him to get experience running Cup cars at high speeds and in the draft. Run at, say... Charlotte or Pocono, before taking a crack at the two big tracks, where there are seldom single car accidents and when an accident happens it can get really fugly.

I repeat. Good call, NA__AR.

[jks812]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Running the Cup cars on tracks on a mile or longer. NA__AR terms these tracks "Superspeedways." I presume that they want him to get experience running Cup cars at high speeds and in the draft. Run at, say... Charlotte or Pocono, before taking a crack at the two big tracks, where there are seldom single car accidents and when an accident happens it can get really fugly.

I repeat. Good call, NA__AR.

Well that makes alot of sense. Guess I was having a blond moment earlier( and I'm black haired). Lol. I was trying to figure how you could get experience running Daytona if they wouldn't let you on the track without experience. Now I feel so stoopid.