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Old 05-15-2008, 04:28 PM
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Another blow for WBR

They just aint having any luck are they.....and Nascar need to get there act together in regards to being consistant

Sorry, Jon Wood - Bob Pockrass - Scenedaily.com
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Old 05-15-2008, 05:02 PM
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Re: Another blow fro WBR

Another glorious article on NA$CAR and their great consistency in rule enforcement
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:55 PM
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Re: Another blow fro WBR

You’ve been arrested and accused of murder. Your accusers are, according to the prosecution, “familiar with your situation”, but are unwilling appear, be identified, or to give identifiable testimony of/in any form. None the matter, it is decided your trial will go forward.

Not terribly unlike: according to those familiar with the situation (and not willing to be quoted by name)

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Another who’s situation (according to those same claiming to be equally and accurately familiar with your situation while unwilling to be identified of verified) allegedly was the benefactor of an appeal by perhaps Entity A, or on the other hand and equally undefined/unknown, Entity B. The basis/equality/similarity of the appeal is not identified and is left to only the imagination. It is important now that one be able(?) to proceed towards assembling ones firmament towards judgment based on that which one sees as irrefutable evidence provided so far.

Not terribly unlike: BAM Racing and/or Petty Enterprises inquires about Chad McCumbee

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Now, based on the appeal on the behalf of the other by perhaps Entity A, or on the other hand and equally undefined/unknown, Entity B, the Judicial to which the appeal was elevated/tabled, has determined that a uniqueness exists in the comparison between you and the other, such that a judgment of mutual exclusivity must be rendered. So therefore, based on the clear and irrefutable facts (?) presented, the decision is placed in the hands of the jury.

The verdict- The other is set to freedom, while you are to be exterminated.

And the Medidiots ask you – Do you feel you got a fair trial?

Not terribly unlike: made an exception for him to compete



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Old 05-15-2008, 07:41 PM
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Re: Another blow fro WBR

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Wood not being allowed to race while McCumbee is in the qualifying event is not the biggest crime in the world. But it just shows that the confusing mess of rules involving all-star criteria could use some tweaking.
Sorry fella's ... it ain't just the All Star criteria. I think they just put all the rules in a hat and on a daily basis take one out and screw it up just to see who notices it.
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:33 PM
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Words absolutely fail me.

Only a screwed up bureacracy which could come up with The Chosen 35 Rule and allow Cup teams and drivers to compete for points in lower levels, could come up with a rule interpretation as Podgrass describes.
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:01 AM
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Re: Another blow for WBR

I don't understand this one. But it does seem like Nascar is throwing Woods to the wolves.
The rule said the car had to be in top 50 of owner points the previous year, the 21 was 36th,the 49 was 47th. Maybe Chad got in cause he had started 2 races last year and Jon only 1? It really doesn't make sense. Regardless of driver, the car highest in the points should be the one in it.
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:19 AM
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Re: Another blow for WBR

I don't understand what you guys seem to be all upset about. The Wood Bros. No. 21 is in the All-Star race Saturday night with Bill Elliott. The Wood's have chosen to run Jon Wood in the No. 21 in the 600 next Saturday. I was not aware that the Wood Bros. had campaigned two Sprint Cup cars this season. The way that I look at it, it seems "fair" to me to run Elliott this weekend and Wood next weekend.
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:30 AM
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I don't understand what you guys seem to be all upset about. The Wood Bros. No. 21 is in the All-Star race Saturday night with Bill Elliott. The Wood's have chosen to run Jon Wood in the No. 21 in the 600 next Saturday. I was not aware that the Wood Bros. had campaigned two Sprint Cup cars this season. The way that I look at it, it seems "fair" to me to run Elliott this weekend and Wood next weekend.
The thing that upsets me is Woods wanted to enter Jon and was told no because he hadn't made a race before March 10th. Now Chad also hadn't made a race before March 10th, but Petty wanted to enter him and was told ok. If one can't be in because he hadn't made a race then the other shouldn't be in when he hasn't made a race either.
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:19 AM
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The thing that upsets me is Woods wanted to enter Jon and was told no because he hadn't made a race before March 10th. Now Chad also hadn't made a race before March 10th, but Petty wanted to enter him and was told ok. If one can't be in because he hadn't made a race then the other shouldn't be in when he hasn't made a race either.
I see what makes people feel like NASCAR is playing favorites with allowing Petty Enterprises to enter Chad McCumbee in the Showdown. However, Chad is entered in the #49 car and not the #45 car. BAM Racing is the owner of the #49 license and was in the top 50 in points last year. That's why the #49 is eligible to enter a car. They have this arrangement with Petty Enterprises to provide them a car, sponsor, driver and crew.

The Wood Bros. do not seem to be complaining about putting Bill Elliott in their #21 for this weekend. They only have the single car to enter. If they could have worked a deal with one onf the "limbo" teams like PE did, Jon Wood could be in the Showdown with a call to the right person at NASCAR.
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The thing that makes me believe the rules apply to different owners in different ways is this. It's not about the cars and where they were in points. If it was the 49 was 47th, but the 21 was 36th, the 21 would win by default of being higher. They let Bill enter in the 21 but not Jon, because he hadn't qualified for a race before March 10th. Well Chad hadn't qualified for a race before then either. So why can Chad enter and not Jon? Thats the part I don't understand. It's not the car they turned down, it's the driver. So no I don't think he could have entered if they had found a team to use like Petty did.
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:43 AM
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I did a quick check of the racing news on the Internet. It seems that only Bob Pockrass has published the information that Jon Wood is being shut-out by NASCAR. As I stated earlier, I've never seen anything where the Wood Bros. organization is complaining about Jon not being in the #21 this weekend. It's clear to me why Chad McCumbee is racing and Jon Wood is not racing this weekend. Well, maybe Jon is racing, but in trucks.
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Old 05-16-2008, 06:10 PM
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I stand by my statement; words fail me.

Any event which has rules this confusing where simple rules would serve much, much better, needs to do a reality check.
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I stand by my statement; words fail me.

Any event which has rules this confusing where simple rules would serve much, much better, needs to do a reality check.
Reality checks don't get cashed to often in NA$CAR today Bob ... sad to say.
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:15 PM
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Re: Another blow for WBR

This is complete bullcrap WBR Should be allowed to use Jon Wood as a driver stupid Nascar and their screwed up rules
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:27 PM
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This is complete bullcrap WBR Should be allowed to use Jon Wood as a driver stupid Nascar and their screwed up rules
Since the rules are so ambiguous, I agree. However, I think they should drop all the past winners, past champions, past winning car owners, and what-the-Hell ever past-whatevers they give an exemption to.

My suggestion: All winners who have won in the past two years (from the date of The Winston), including winners of the last two Winstons plus winners of the Twin 125's and the Bud Shootout at season's start.

No qualifying race and stupid "fan Vote." (Which has to be one of the most childish and insipid ideas ever to come out of Humpy's mind) Just the drivers who qualify as defined above. Everyone else just stays home and watches the race. This is an All Star race, not a race for has beens and wannabes.
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