[simple simon]

Originally Posted by NASCAR Gnome

Who can stop Kyle Busch?

Himself and his team. And crashing...

Who can stop Kyle Busch? Kyle Busch!

i agree 100% .... no other driver has a 50-50 shot imo

[OrionBen]

Originally Posted by kcoruol

At this point he's unstoppable.
....
Normally I'd say Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson but those 2 just don't have there hearts in it this year. I think they are both probably spending more time at home with their families.

I agree with you, right now he is unstoppable, but as for the other 2 your point have some validity but I will add also that last year they realized it's not not dominating in the first half that's important, it's just making the chase. JG had such a lead before the chase, but JJ simply made it and dominated in it.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by OrionBen

I agree with you, right now he is unstoppable, but as for the other 2 your point have some validity but I will add also that last year they realized it's not not dominating in the first half that's important, it's just making the chase. JG had such a lead before the chase, but JJ simply made it and dominated in it.

not so fast OB

youre right about last year .... but i believe it was a bit of a fluke .... Kyle has 3 wins so far this season ... i think he may get a couple more at the minimum .... at 10 points bonus per win that is a large head start

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by simple simon

not so fast OB

youre right about last year .... but i believe it was a bit of a fluke .... Kyle has 3 wins so far this season ... i think he may get a couple more at the minimum .... at 10 points bonus per win that is a large head start

True, true, but no lead is insurmountable, and you never know when Kyle's luck could start turning the other way. Nothing's written in stone just yet.

[The Dude]

Originally Posted by simple simon

not so fast OB

youre right about last year .... but i believe it was a bit of a fluke .... Kyle has 3 wins so far this season ... i think he may get a couple more at the minimum .... at 10 points bonus per win that is a large head start

Jimmie Johnson also managed to beat Gordon by almost 80 points, if you figure in the 2 wins Johnson had over Gordon in the regular season, Johnson still beat him by 60 points over the course of 10 races, and it'll be hard for anyone to match the consistientcy(sp?) that Gordon showed over the Chase last year, even Kyle Busch.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by simple simon

not so fast OB

youre right about last year .... but i believe it was a bit of a fluke .... Kyle has 3 wins so far this season ... i think he may get a couple more at the minimum .... at 10 points bonus per win that is a large head start

I'm not even convinced that those bonus points are worth anything since once they get into the chase it is only those points that separate them. A win by the 12th place driver and a 43rd place finish by the top driver can change the standings, dramatically, in one race

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

I'm not even convinced that those bonus points are worth anything since once they get into the chase it is only those points that separate them. A win by the 12th place driver and a 43rd place finish by the top driver can change the standings, dramatically, in one race

i agree with all of that .... but it just feels different to me this season ... i think Kyle has a bit of a mental edge in the Series right now

[Havax]

this car caters to on the edge drivers, for example, you can get bumped and still save the car unlike the old car. you can also smack it around a bit unlike the last car. Kyle Busch likes to dirt track every corner and if the wall needs a make over, hes ready to give it one.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by simple simon

i agree with all of that .... but it just feels different to me this season ... i think Kyle has a bit of a mental edge in the Series right now

I would agree with that. When you are winning and getting as much media attention as he is then you have to have some sort of mental edge. I'm sure he gets all wound up when he thinks that HMS booted him and their new driver still doesn't have a win. Gotta make him just puff right up.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Havax

this car caters to on the edge drivers, for example, you can get bumped and still save the car unlike the old car. you can also smack it around a bit unlike the last car. Kyle Busch likes to dirt track every corner and if the wall needs a make over, hes ready to give it one.

you can only "dirt track" so much before you start loosing right rear tires. and you can only hit the wall so many times before you break something. some tracks are more forgiving on the right rear and some are more forgiving on wall smacks, but then there are some that aren't.

OTOH, every driver (and CC) knows the fastest setup is "loose", but most drivers are not capable of controlling it on every track (super speedways, for example), which is why a slightly "tight" setup is preferred at some tracks. Loose is also a very stressful condition for the driver, requiring intense concentration, 'cause one slip and it could be all over for the day.

Shrub seems able to make it work for him, but he knows he's on a razor edge between super fast and crashing. As he matures he'll start backing it down a little. In the meantime, enjoy the show!

[BiscuitMan]

Originally Posted by Havax

this car caters to on the edge drivers, for example, you can get bumped and still save the car unlike the old car. you can also smack it around a bit unlike the last car. Kyle Busch likes to dirt track every corner and if the wall needs a make over, hes ready to give it one.

Havax, don't get missled by Kyle's bumping of the wall at Darlington. He was within inches of the wall when he lost control or decided to drive into it. On other tracks, even this and next week end at Lowe's, he may take the low line and if you loose it there the wall is 75 feet away. Big dents can occur when you are out of control that far from the wall and finally meet it at a bad angle. Darlington is a different environment than the wide racing grooves of Lowe's.

[Havax]

Originally Posted by BiscuitMan

Havax, don't get missled by Kyle's bumping of the wall at Darlington. He was within inches of the wall when he lost control or decided to drive into it. On other tracks, even this and next week end at Lowe's, he may take the low line and if you loose it there the wall is 75 feet away. Big dents can occur when you are out of control that far from the wall and finally meet it at a bad angle. Darlington is a different environment than the wide racing grooves of Lowe's.

I agree with you fully, but it seems almost every race he is damaging his car in some way

[Fireball]

Originally Posted by Havax

I agree with you fully, but it seems almost every race he is damaging his car in some way

That is Kyle Busch's nature. He's a very aggressive driver and has been lucky this season. "Ole Dale" was the same way when he started racing: stepping on people toes and tearing up his equipment.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

I would agree with that. When you are winning and getting as much media attention as he is then you have to have some sort of mental edge. I'm sure he gets all wound up when he thinks that HMS booted him and their new driver still doesn't have a win. Gotta make him just puff right up.

Thing is though, the driver that replaced him is 3rd place ( respectively I might add) in the points standing without any wins. One might say the mental edge is not so much. It could work against Kyle as he might let it get to him that he has won and Jr hasnt, and Junior is not far behind him. Junior could use this to his advantage.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Quality88

Thing is though, the driver that replaced him is 3rd place ( respectively I might add) in the points standing without any wins. One might say the mental edge is not so much. It could work against Kyle as he might let it get to him that he has won and Jr hasnt, and Junior is not far behind him. Junior could use this to his advantage.

Oh don't get me wrong. Jr is doing just fine but ...... my point is that there is a mental edge for Kyle because he is winning AFTER his release from HMS. I'm no fan of Kyle but there is some credit due to him for his effort to win versus run for points.