[The Dude]

Originally Posted by GrimlockAutobot

No the reason why it's not "just a racing thing" is Kyle Busch is a little punk and he pulled this crap just the night before in the Nationwide race.

Also, he ADMITTED on ESPN that he didn't get loose until AFTER he spun Junior so that shows he was trying to show up the driver and team that replaced him.....HMS......by doing it deliberately.

Yet amazingly, he ended up second, and Jr. in sixteenth, so it seems that Busch made the right call, made the right move, and got second place.

Maybe if Jr. drove as "badly" as Busch, he wouldn't have gone over 2 years without a win.

[GrimlockAutobot]

Hang him and his teammate Hamlin for causing that caution underhandedly just so Busch could get closer to Jr's bumper.

[bayou_bengals]

Originally Posted by jks812

I am a fan of Jr's and I don't have a problem with what happened. To me it was 2 drivers racing hard for the win. Whats wrong with that? If it had been, oh lets say Bowyer, that it happened to everybody would be saying, oh that was just a racing thing. But since it was Jr it happened to it can't be a racing thing.
Even DW ( I think) said, you can't do that, not to that driver.
How many times has Jr himself done it?

Apparently a casual fan and not a rabid one like the rest of us.

[jks812]

Originally Posted by GrimlockAutobot

No the reason why it's not "just a racing thing" is Kyle Busch is a little punk and he pulled this crap just the night before in the Nationwide race.

Also, he ADMITTED on ESPN that he didn't get loose until AFTER he spun Junior so that shows he was trying to show up the driver and team that replaced him.....HMS......by doing it deliberately.

I don't feel like he had to do that to show up HMS or Jr. I kinda think he's already done that, before tonight.

[Mudbug]

It might have been a racin deal but inexperience is what caused that wreck. He is young and learning but that was a bone head move. He could have taken them both out.

[GrimlockAutobot]

Originally Posted by The Dude

Yet amazingly, he ended up second, and Jr. in sixteenth, so it seems that Busch made the right call, made the right move, and got second place.

Maybe if Jr. drove as "badly" as Busch, he wouldn't have gone over 2 years without a win.

So you're saying it's alright to wreck people just to get a good finish out of it?

That's bull plain and simple. It wasn't alright when Earnhardt Sr did it to people, it wasn't alright when Busch did it tonite, and it wouldn't have been alright if the tables were turned and Junior did the same thing to Busch.

And this is coming from a die-hard Earnhardt Junior and Senior fan.

You're flat out wrong.

[The Dude]

Originally Posted by jks812

I don't feel like he had to do that to show up HMS or Jr. I kinda think he's already done that, before tonight.

I see you and I seem to be on the same page here.

Oh, and for the record, I do disagree with what Hamlin did, that was a dirty move. Smart, but dirty.

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by GrimlockAutobot

Also, he ADMITTED on ESPN that he didn't get loose until AFTER he spun Junior so that shows he was trying to show up the driver and team that replaced him.....HMS......by doing it deliberately.

If you saw the replay with both cars coming at you, it was clear the 18 slid into Jr simply because he went in too hot and Jr didnt give him much room (hard racing).......not because he was purposely trying to wreck him. That is professional suicide for any driver to wreck Jr. intentionally. Granted, KB is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I'm sure he is smart enough to know not to wreck Na$cars golden boy intentionally.

[bears9]

Okay guys let's just take a minute to breath, and agree to disagree.

[jks812]

Originally Posted by bayou_bengals

Apparently a casual fan and not a rabid one like the rest of us.

Casual? Me? But you are right, not rabid. While I have been a fan of Jr since he entered Nascar, I don't think he's the be all end all of Nascar. I don't think everything he said is spun from gold. I also happen to like watching a race and not just Jr.

[GrimlockAutobot]

Originally Posted by jks812

I don't feel like he had to do that to show up HMS or Jr. I kinda think he's already done that, before tonight.

I personally don't think he's shown anyone up until tonight....and someone should've told HIM that he didn't have to do what he did tonight.

[bayou_bengals]

Originally Posted by The Dude

Yet amazingly, he ended up second, and Jr. in sixteenth, so it seems that Busch made the right call, made the right move, and got second place.

Maybe if Jr. drove as "badly" as Busch, he wouldn't have gone over 2 years without a win.

Maybe if Jrs. equipment and company issues weren't pulling him down is more like it. I mean his start so far with Hendrick this year should be enough to attest that. Don't ever put that idiot in Dale's league again. I'm sure you'll respond, but just remember this. Dale had far more success his first few years than Busch. And one more thing. The finishing order comment is just stupid. Busch didn't have a crunched bumber and flat spotted tires. Get real!!!!

[Intox]

I disagree Kyle Busch won the first ever COT race BECAUSE Burton wouldn't do what he had to, to win the race, the legacy of Busch will by far surpass those of guys like Burton if it hasn't already, because he does what it takes to win!

[GrimlockAutobot]

Originally Posted by Intox

I disagree Kyle Busch won the first ever COT race BECAUSE Burton wouldn't do what he had to, to win the race, the legacy of Busch will by far surpass those of guys like Burton if it hasn't already, because he does what it takes to win!

Which is race like a dirty driver. He's taken over the bad guy role once occupied by his big brother.

[bayou_bengals]

Originally Posted by jks812

Casual? Me? But you are right, not rabid. While I have been a fan of Jr since he entered Nascar, I don't think he's the be all end all of Nascar. I don't think everything he said is spun from gold. I also happen to like watching a race and not just Jr.

I'm didn't say Jr. was the be all end all of NASCAR. I am just a rabid fan who will not excuse someone who has a history of this sort of behavior.