[million$bill]

following Bill's semi-retirement announcement in 2003, Ray Everhnam stated, "On the day Bill Elliott decides it's going to be his last race, he will drive the No. 9." - Ray Evernham

Bill has stated that 2008 will be his last year in NEXTEL Cup. this petition has been created in order to support Bill, and ask Ray to live up to his word.

Bill Elliott Petition

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[Bryan88]

Originally Posted by million$bill

following Bill's semi-retirement announcement in 2003, Ray Everhnam stated, "On the day Bill Elliott decides it's going to be his last race, he will drive the No. 9." - Ray Evernham

Bill has stated that 2008 will be his last year in NEXTEL Cup. this petition has been created in order to support Bill, and ask Ray to live up to his word.

Bill Elliott Petition

please add your signature to the over 190 signatures all ready signed. and dont hesitate to forward the link.

That's nice and all, but no way that happens with Kasey in the hunt for the chase and all the sponsor issues they would have to work out.

[jks812]

If he gets to drive it one more time, will he promise he'll give it up for good and not race anymore? If he does that, I'll get ya lots of signatures.
But I agree with Bryan, no way that happens.

[Jeffrey4396]

Originally Posted by Bryan88

That's nice and all, but no way that happens with Kasey in the hunt for the chase and all the sponsor issues they would have to work out.

Isn't like Kasey couldn't be put in another car like the 09 with bud on the hood. I think Kasey is talented enough to make the show if needed to. If it did happen I think it would be at Homestead with Kasey out of the hunt.

[million$bill]

the couple of variables that hold this back are:
sponsors
Kasey in the Chase

other than that, Bill has driven for Budweiser before. either way Bill would be getting 4th tier equipment and most likely using his PCP. can i promise Bill would be done for good...? Bill himself stated that 08 would be his last year in Cup, if he's good for his word I would sure hope an owner like Ray Evernham would be good for his.

Bill Elliott and his final drive in the #9*-*Online Petition

[BiscuitMan]

Originally Posted by million$bill

the couple of variables that hold this back are:
sponsors
Kasey in the Chase

other than that, Bill has driven for Budweiser before. either way Bill would be getting 4th tier equipment and most likely using his PCP. can i promise Bill would be done for good...? Bill himself stated that 08 would be his last year in Cup, if he's good for his word I would sure hope an owner like Ray Evernham would be good for his.Bill Elliott and his final drive in the #9*-*Online Petition

I think I've heard Bill Elliott say "Never say never." No body in their right mind will make a commitment or promise never to race again.

Oh, maybe I did once. But that was before I knew they were paying $500 just to start the race. So much for promises.

[Bassdogs]

No offense to BE fans, but I have to ask; Who cares if he drives again in the 9 or anything else except the pace car? Bill hasn't been competative for years. Cup is supposed to be about racing [at least I thought it was] not giving "swan songs" to old champions who don't seem to know when its time to turn in the helmet. For what its worth, I think the only reason Bill and most recently Dale J have hung on is because of the 35 rule and the value they bring to a team needing the champions provisional. Does anyone think he gets the job at MWR last year if he didn't bring the champ's provisional? If and when Bill E drives again, he will just be taking a starting position away from a young driver trying to break in to Cup. As in recent races, he will not be a factor in the race or the top 20 for that matter.

[Racer Duck]

Just to clarify a little on BE's apparent "lack of success" recently.

The Wood Brothers #21 was driven by 3 drivers in 2007 for a total of 34 races in the 36 race season:

• Bill Elliott (20 races), Ken Shrader (13 races) and Jon Wood (1 race).
• Average driver points earned per race among these drivers are:
  • Elliott - 78.8
  • Shrader - 71.7
  • Wood - 76.0
• Had BE driven all 34 races this car appeared in and maintained his average, he would have finished 33rd in points instead of 42nd.
• Had BE driven all 36 races in the season and maintained his average, he would have finished 31st.
• Had BE driven all 36 races, Glen Wood, owner of #21, would have finished 35th in owners points, instead of 36th.

The Wood Brothers #21 has been driven by 1 driver for 4 races of the 8 to date in the 2008 season:

• Bill Elliott (4 races),
• Average driver points earned per race for these races:
  • Elliott - 69.25
• Had BE driven all 8 races to date in this car, he would be tied for 34th in driver points

Now, you can make all the claims you want about him taking a rookie's seat, but, fact is, the Wood Brother's cars are not top of the line and border on being non-competitive. I wish that weren't true, but I don't think you can lay that on BE as no other driver in that car has been able to do better than he. Remember, they jerked Shrader last year because he wasn't performing and had fallen out of the Chosen .. BE turned that around.

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by million$bill

following Bill's semi-retirement announcement in 2003, Ray Everhnam stated, "On the day Bill Elliott decides it's going to be his last race, he will drive the No. 9." - Ray Evernham

Bill has stated that 2008 will be his last year in NEXTEL Cup. this petition has been created in order to support Bill, and ask Ray to live up to his word.

Bill Elliott Petition

please add your signature to the over 190 signatures all ready signed. and dont hesitate to forward the link.

Welcome to the forum, million$bill. Thanks for joining us!

I admire your dedication to your favorite driver. However, please note we only allow external links to news sources. If anyone is interested in signing this online petition, please contact this user via PM for the link. Thank you!

[simple simon]

someone please correct me if im wrong .... but i believe points for a driver go to that driver no matter which car they drive ... meaning Jr can drive the 24 next week and it still adds to his points total for the season

my point being .... i think i have a solution that would be a huge coup for all involved

have Evernham put Elliot in the Bud #9 for his final race this season .... have Bud also sponsor a separate car for Kasey for this one race (as far as i know there is no rule against the same sponsor on 2 cars) ... Kasey would still get his points ... they would just be in a car with a different # (obviously the smart thing to do for his comfort would be to slap a new # on one of his cars)

i would think Bill would be ecstatic .... Evernham and Kahne would at the least come off looking like good guys .... and Bud would much more then recoup any exspenses from collectible sales and what-not

win-win all the way around

[clutch]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

Now, you can make all the claims you want about him taking a rookie's seat, but, fact is, the Wood Brother's cars are not top of the line and border on being non-competitive. I wish that weren't true, but I don't think you can lay that on BE as no other driver in that car has been able to do better than he. Remember, they jerked Shrader last year because he wasn't performing and had fallen out of the Chosen .. BE turned that around.

BE didnt turn that around Duck........the PCP changed that .......and all it actually did was prolong the inevitable.......the fact is the Organization is what is not competitive

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by clutch

BE didnt turn that around Duck........the PCP changed that .......and all it actually did was prolong the inevitable.......the fact is the Organization is what is not competitive

PCP?

BE did get the car back into the Chosen .. for a while...

You're right about their organization being the main problem...my point is that BE shouldn't be held responsible for their predicament.

[Bassdogs]

Duck - eeking out a top 35 position does not equal being competitive. BE was [and I stress "was"] a great driver and the most popular for years. All I can say is give it up and enjoy the limelight. As a current driver even your comment lists him with Schrader and Wood, not Tony, Jeff, Kyle, JJ, or Jr.. Every time he gets into the field, he is taking a seat from a younger driver who is trying to make his way up instead of an over the hill guy who refuses to acknowledge that is day as a driver was over several seasons past.

I repeat, Nascar is supposed to be racing, not a stage for past champions. If something is in order, do what they did for DJ at Bristol this Spring ----and then watch him finish near the back in the race.

Just someone's opinion, but one that every once in a while gets it right!

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Bassdogs

Duck - eeking out a top 35 position does not equal being competitive. BE was [and I stress "was"] a great driver and the most popular for years. All I can say is give it up and enjoy the limelight. As a current driver even your comment lists him with Schrader and Wood, not Tony, Jeff, Kyle, JJ, or Jr.. Every time he gets into the field, he is taking a seat from a younger driver who is trying to make his way up instead of an over the hill guy who refuses to acknowledge that is day as a driver was over several seasons past.

I repeat, Nascar is supposed to be racing, not a stage for past champions. If something is in order, do what they did for DJ at Bristol this Spring ----and then watch him finish near the back in the race.

Just someone's opinion, but one that every once in a while gets it right!

evidently you missed my point: BE isn't the problem at Wood Bros., the organization and the equipment is.

so, what evidence do you have that will show some young(er) driver will do better? how about Jon Wood? remember the organization and equipment when you make that judgment. also remember that Wood Bros. are limited in their ability to attract good young talent precisely because of their "situation."

that said, I also agree it's time for Bill to retire. and I believe he would have if the Brothers Wood hadn't come knocking (the old fire horse responding to the fire whistle.) BE has other irons in the fire and wants to devote his time to them. however, he probably feels a sort of obligation to Wood Bros. to see them thru this tough time. and evidently they feel he is more of what they need than young Jon...

[clutch]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

PCP?

BE did get the car back into the Chosen .. for a while...

You're right about their organization being the main problem...my point is that BE shouldn't be held responsible for their predicament.

.....PCP.....or Past Champ Provisional........without this BE would never have been called to fill the seat.
BE wouldnt have qualified on time for any of those races that you say he helped them get into the top35

Its not BE's fault, and its one of the reasons Bobby Labonte is probably going to RCR, but its time that the Past Champ rule was removed