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Old 04-12-2008, 07:40 PM
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Transported back in time..

Lets say all the current Nascar drivers were tranported back in time to the time Nascar had just started. Who would be dominant?
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Lets say all the current Nascar drivers were tranported back in time to the time Nascar had just started. Who would be dominant?
Not to be cynical, but why would it be any different ?

There are plenty of reasons why it could change and many reasons why it would be the same.
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Lets say all the current Nascar drivers were tranported back in time to the time Nascar had just started. Who would be dominant?
We need paramiters, Vince.
Will their current cars and technology go back with them?
Will they be driving Hudsons, Plymouth six-cylinders?
Will they take their trainers back with them or will they have to eat and "train" the same way Curtis Turner, Herb Thomas and Buck Baker did?
Will they compete for today's money? The equivalent of today's money? Or will they run for $1000 or $1500 to win?
Will they have their crew chiefs or will they have to maintain their own cars?

Without knowing the above there is no way I could give even an educated guess to you question.
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We need paramiters, Vince.
Will their current cars and technology go back with them?
Will they be driving Hudsons, Plymouth six-cylinders?
Will they take their trainers back with them or will they have to eat and "train" the same way Curtis Turner, Herb Thomas and Buck Baker did?
Will they compete for today's money? The equivalent of today's money? Or will they run for $1000 or $1500 to win?
Will they have their crew chiefs or will they have to maintain their own cars?

Without knowing the above there is no way I could give even an educated guess to you question.
all were doing is taking the drivers of today and taking everything of the past. money, cars, technology, everything of the past will be used..
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Not to be cynical, but why would it be any different ?

There are plenty of reasons why it could change and many reasons why it would be the same.
Because all is ever said is how different the "old" Nascar was compared to todays, including cars, technology etc..Im just wanting to get everyones opinion as to will jimmie johnson, jeff gordon, kyle busch etc.. will they be as good..or worse...
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all were doing is taking the drivers of today and taking everything of the past. money, cars, technology, everything of the past will be used..
Carl Edwards, Tony Stewart, and Clint Bowyer, Mark Martin.

All four are physically fit, are adept at different types of tracks and cars, and all have maintained their own cars in the past. In addition all four would be very hard to intimidate.

They're my choices and I'm sticking to them.
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Because all is ever said is how different the "old" Nascar was compared to todays, including cars, technology etc..Im just wanting to get everyones opinion as to will jimmie johnson, jeff gordon, kyle busch etc.. will they be as good..or worse...
They would be worse. Those old cars did not have "power steering" and current day drivers have a hard time when the power steering unit fails.
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Carl Edwards, Tony Stewart, and Clint Bowyer, Mark Martin.

All four are physically fit, are adept at different types of tracks and cars, and all have maintained their own cars in the past. In addition all four would be very hard to intimidate.

They're my choices and I'm sticking to them.
Bob, I agree with your drivers, but I can't claim Smoke to be physically fit!! I bet he would even get a chuckle out of that. And it's a shame. How much better could Tony be if you was in better shape?
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Carl Edwards, Tony Stewart, and Clint Bowyer, Mark Martin.

All four are physically fit, are adept at different types of tracks and cars, and all have maintained their own cars in the past. In addition all four would be very hard to intimidate.

They're my choices and I'm sticking to them.
Damn.... it's like you read my mind.
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JR,Martin,Elliott would dominate the sport hands down
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Carl Edwards, Tony Stewart, and Clint Bowyer, Mark Martin.

All four are physically fit, are adept at different types of tracks and cars, and all have maintained their own cars in the past. In addition all four would be very hard to intimidate.

They're my choices and I'm sticking to them.

I like those too. But I'd have to add Ryan Newman to the list.
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I like those too. But I'd have to add Ryan Newman to the list.
Really?.... due tell, please share your insights with the rest of the class. Not tryin to to start anythin, just interested.
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Carl Edwards, Tony Stewart, and Clint Bowyer, Mark Martin.

All four are physically fit, are adept at different types of tracks and cars, and all have maintained their own cars in the past. In addition all four would be very hard to intimidate.

They're my choices and I'm sticking to them.
Good choices .. though I'm not quite ready to give "dominant" to Clint, yet.

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Bob, I agree with your drivers, but I can't claim Smoke to be physically fit!! I bet he would even get a chuckle out of that. And it's a shame. How much better could Tony be if you was in better shape?
depends on what you define as shape. "round" is a shape.

however, I've seen Tony after a particularly long, hot race and he appears less affected by the environment or stress of a long race than most. I think Tony is one of the few that will do what it requires to race. If that means more Subway and less Pizza Hut, then so be it.

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JR,Martin,Elliott would dominate the sport hands down
Jr: not a chance, unless his daddy was running interference for him.
Martin: definitely
Elliott: probably - he's probably the only one of the current drivers that spanned both eras - but he'd need Ernie there making his cars go fast.

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I like those too. But I'd have to add Ryan Newman to the list.
I like Ryan in this scenario also. He's strong, smart and knows how to do it all. Whether he could dominate is questionable, but he'd definitely be one of the ones to put money on for getting poles. (I would love it if his "end race" position was equal or better than his "start race" position .. that's one area he needs to work on.)

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I've got a few other names for reasons I'll state:
Jeff Gordon - no matter what you think of him, he is one of the best, if not the best, of the current era; he always focused on winning and when they paid money for mid-race leaders, he was always there or almost there. I admit his focus has lessened the last year or so, but he still has the fire in his eyes.

The Busch Brothers - again, no matter what you think of them they are focused on winning. And it doesn't seem to matter to them whether they start in the back or front, each usually finds a way to get to the front and lead laps every race! Busch the elder didn't back into his championship and neither will Shrub.

The "other" Gordon (Robby) - this will be an unpopular choice, but here's my reasons: Robby has the mental and physical toughness to compete in the yesteryear scenario (one of the few who dared the Memorial Day "Twins") as well as the ability to work on and fix his cars - all requirements to compete successfully in the Baja 1000 and Dakar Rally. And, of all the current drivers, he has more experience in more different types of vehicles and racing than anyone else (Tony included.) In fact, I believe Robby was born to the wrong era .. he'd have been much more successful as a racer 30 - 40 years ago.

The Head "Said-Head" (Boris) - road racer par excellence and showing lots of strength at super speedways. Boris has the old time mentality behind the wheel: full speed ahead & take no prisoners! Because of lack of funds he isn't able to compete full-time, but I believe if he were, he'd be in the chase for the Chase. And Boris is a "character" .. something there were lots of back then, but oh so few today.
That's my picks .. do with them what you want...
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Really?.... due tell, please share your insights with the rest of the class. Not tryin to to start anythin, just interested.
Well for one thing, he's proven he can race and be competitive without power steering. He's also proved that he can work on his car.
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Old 04-14-2008, 12:31 PM
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RD those are some good choices. I also wouldn't give Jr much of a chance. I don't think I would Jeff either. The majority of the time he's not to good if his car isn't set up perfect for him. I agree about Kyle. He seems to be able to driver almost anything and be competitve. I hadn't thought about Robby, but I could see him doing pretty good.
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