[indyNASCARgirl]

Take your stinkin' hat off!!!!!!!!!

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by indyNASCARgirl

Take your stinkin' hat off!!!!!!!!!

DITTO

[PettyBlue]

Disagree!My great grand father,grand father,father,myself and now my son have fought and two died in war to give that lady or ANYOTHER the RIGHT to ware a hat,if she or he likes.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by PettyBlue

Disagree!My great grand father,grand father,father,myself and now my son have fought and two died in war to give that lady or ANYOTHER the RIGHT to ware a hat,if she or he likes.

It's all about respect. I fought and my G-father fought. It's all about respect. For many of us who fought it is all about respect. She seems to lack it. It isn't any secret to her either. Myself and many others have written to her. I view her as a punk who lacks respect for what I fought for.

[NASCAR Gnome]

In fairness, I believe etiquette does not require women to remove their hats or headcovers. The standard that us men are held do in this regard is not the same as women so I don't know for sure if what she did was disrespectful. (I'm assuming this is during the national anthem, right?)

I've seen women in church with hats on for Easter or Christmas mass and I know that a priest once kicked me out of the church because I refused to remove my cap so I know that it's different for men and women. Now, as far as a "flag ceremony" or national anthem goes though, I've never heard the PA announcer say "ladies remove your caps" but I hear them say "gentlemen remove your caps/hats" all the time!

[PettyBlue]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

It's all about respect. I fought and my G-father fought. It's all about respect. For many of us who fought it is all about respect. She seems to lack it. Myself and many others have written to her. I view her as a punk

Respect!You call your post respect to a lady?ps. Just where did you and others wright to her?Come to VMI in Lexington,Va. Watch what happens to a cadet that does not show respect to any female.The CO will and does jack his ass up double quick,period!Been there to see it!

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by PettyBlue

Disagree!My great grand father,grand father,father,myself and now my son have fought and two died in war to give that lady or ANYOTHER the RIGHT to ware a hat,if she or he likes.

Originally Posted by LSC9901

It's all about respect. I fought and my G-father fought. It's all about respect. For many of us who fought it is all about respect. She seems to lack it. It isn't any secret to her either. Myself and many others have written to her. I view her as a punk who lacks respect for what I fought for.

Originally Posted by NASCAR Gnome

In fairness, I believe etiquette does not require women to remove their hats or headcovers. The standard that us men are held do in this regard is not the same as women so I don't know for sure if what she did was disrespectful. (I'm assuming this is during the national anthem, right?)

I've seen women in church with hats on for Easter or Christmas mass and I know that a priest once kicked me out of the church because I refused to remove my cap so I know that it's different for men and women. Now, as far as a "flag ceremony" or national anthem goes though, I've never heard the PA announcer say "ladies remove your caps" but I hear them say "gentlemen remove your caps/hats" all the time!

Originally Posted by PettyBlue

Respect!You call your post respect to a lady?ps. Just where did you and others wright to her?

Okay.... the announcers nowadays say please rise and remove your hats. If the woman was in a dress and fancy hat it would be one thing, but she wears a ball cap. She needs to take it off in respect to the flag, and those that have died for it. Don't agree with me... fine, but, I have 3 uncles, 2 cousins, and My little brother(just to name a few) who have all said she needs to take the ball cap off, she's disrespectin the flag and those that have died for it. To coin a phrase someone once said to me.... " Times change, and things do with it". Time for her to take the hat off.

[WestCoast]

Mrs. Harvick is following protocol and showing NO disrespect. Some of you are confusing your "personal" views with the ones of your country.

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Saluting the Flag

To salute the flag, all persons come to attention. Those in uniform give the appropriate formal salute as specified by the uniform service. Citizens not in uniform salute by placing their right hand over their hearts. Men wearing a head cover (a hat, cap or other headwear) are to remove it. Women may wear a head covering.

[PettyBlue]

Originally Posted by WestCoast

Mrs. Harvick is following protocol and showing NO disrespect. Some of you are confusing your "personal" views with the ones of your country.

________________________________________

Saluting the Flag

To salute the flag, all persons come to attention. Those in uniform give the appropriate formal salute as specified by the uniform service. Citizens not in uniform salute by placing their right hand over their hearts. Men wearing a head cover (a hat, cap or other headwear) are to remove it. Women may wear a head covering.

Correct and you beat me to it.That is what the men in my family fought for.The rights given to our women and children.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by PettyBlue

Correct and you beat me to it.That is what the men in my family fought for.The rights given to our women and children.

Times have changed.... I could see it if she was dressed up... but she's not, she's wearin a ball cap just like a man. If my grandfather ( god rest is soul) said she's wearin a ball cap take it off, that speaks volumes to me.

You want to talk rights..... okay, how bout the hard fight that women have made to be treated the same as men? Are you now sayin that there are exclusions to that?

[PettyBlue]

Originally Posted by Quality88

Times have changed.... I could see it if she was dressed up... but she's not, she's wearin a ball cap just like a man. If my grandfather ( god rest is soul) said she's wearin a ball cap take it off, that speaks volumes to me.

You want to talk rights..... okay, how bout the hard fight that women have made to be treated the same as men? Are you now sayin that there are exclusions to that?

I am saying, a mans duty is to fight for and RESPECT his women and children.Come and tell my wife she needs to take her hat off with myself or anyother adult male family member of mine there and see what happens.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by PettyBlue

I am saying, a mans duty is to fight for and RESPECT his women and children.Come and tell my wife she needs to take her hat off with myself or anyother adult male family member of mine there and see what happens.

Come tell my 2 cousins (both women and in the military) that they should keep theirs on. They think they should be treated just like the men. Times have changed PB.... I think women should be treated the same as men, that means everything. Women fight in the military now, not just serve as nurses. The world is different, and all things change, not just some things.

[PettyBlue]

Both in service to their country= salute not remove hat!

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by PettyBlue

Both in service to their country= salute not remove hat!

Is Mrs Harvick wearing a uniform. And does she put her hand over her heart???

I hadn't noticed, but if I'm sponsoring the team she owns, I'm telling her to get the damn hat off.

Any rule that has to be researched, you should be erring on the side of RESPECT.

I still stand at attention 17 years after getting out, in civilian clothes, when the anthem plays.

She can take the time to take the stinkin hat off.

[3fanforever]

Somebody needs to directly ask Delana why she doesn't remove her hat. That might explain why she does what she does.
Personally, I'd love to hear the answer.