[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Quality88

I know certain belts have guards on them, however, it has been known to happen in which debris goes under the guard and causes the belt to jump. In the case of Jr, it sounded like the powersteering belt came off first, and when it came off it took off the belt that controls the oil pump. Result was no oil pumping in a high RPM engine, thus detonation.

Yes. That was Sunday.

I was referring to when he lost his power steering two weeks ago and "had fun" driving his car. I guess I didn't explain myself clearly.

Losing a belt, or "pulley" of any kind can certainly wreak havoc on an engine.

[3fanforever]

Transcript of Junior's radio traffic after losing power steering @ Chicagoland

Dale Jr.: "LOST THE POWER STEERING! Sorry about that!"
Eury Jr.: "It's alright. 10-4. Do what you can."
Dale Jr.: "It's pretty hard to drive it!"
Eury Jr.: "Drive in your high line - that'll be a little easier on you... Just put them guns of yours up on the steering wheel and get on with it!"
Dale Jr.: (laughing) "I'll try to go where ya want me to go. I've never driven a car like this! This is funny!"

Under a lengthy yellow flag period that began on lap 223...
Dale Jr.: "Sorry. No power steering. The steering wheel just locked up. I had to slow down. It's hard getting into the corners, but I thought it would be harder... but I feel like I'm slingin' a ten-pound hammer everytime I turn down in. I never "
Eury Jr.: "It's cool. We ain't never had that happen. Do what you can do."
Dale Jr.: "It's OK. I ain't never driven one like this... I'm about to take the gloves off, but this (stuff's) about to get serious."
Eury Jr.: (teasing) "The boys say they wanna see those forearms when ya get out of the car."
Dale Jr.: (laughing) "If I was Ryan Newman I'd be able to drive the (stuff) out of it! I was OK, wasn't I?... I'll do the best I can. But it might be the ugliest (stuff) you've ever seen."
Eury Jr.: "10-4. Do whatcha can do."
Dale Jr. (looking for his teammate Martin Truex Jr.) "Where's Martin?"
Eury Jr.: "He blew up..."
Dale Jr.: 'Why didn't you tell me?!"
Hmiel: "We figured - both literally and figuratively - that you had your hands full."
Dale Jr.: "Ah! 10-4..."

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Yes. That was Sunday.
I was referring to when he lost his power steering two weeks ago and "had fun" driving his car. I guess I didn't explain myself clearly.

Dale may have had fun, but I'm sure he looked like an a$$ to any of the previous generation drivers. They had to be sayin "look at that boy, can't drive them little cars for crap!"

Anyway, this has to be the most analysis on an engine faliure I've even heard/read. What happened to the good old days of busting a valve spring?

[bears9]

What they mean when they say the Car "tightened up"

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by BringBackWilkesboro

Anyway, this has to be the most analysis on an engine faliure I've even heard/read. What happened to the good old days of busting a valve spring?

Jeez! Sorry, BBW. I asked the question out of curiosity. Didn't mean to get under your, or anyone else's, skin.

I respectfully disagree that Jr. looked like an a$$ to the previous generation. He held his own with no experience driving without power steering. In fact, his daddy was in a similar situation once, wasn't he? Granted, daddy was brought up without power steering, but when he lost it, he dealt with it.

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by 3fanforever

Transcript of Junior's radio traffic after losing power steering @ Chicagoland

That's cool! Where the heck did you get that?

[3fanforever]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

That's cool! Where the heck did you get that?

FOX Sports on MSN - NASCAR - Riding with Junior: Chicagoland

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Holy crap! See why I call you my own personal NASCAR encyclopedia?

Chasis. I get it.

Actually, I started to question "parts" when Jr. lost his power steering couple of weeks ago. How the heck does that happen? It's not something you hear often. Then, toward the end of the race, the announcers mentioned that debris hit the "something" that caused his power steering to fail. How freakish is that?

now learn how to spell it: chassis. just remember "classy chassis" (both with double "s") but I'm proud of you no matter how you spell it.

there's a few ways power steering can be lost: loss of fluid by a leak or ruptured line; loss of drive power to the pump usually caused by the belt coming off a pulley; or internal failure in the pump. several things can cause the belt to come off the pulley: a foreign object between the belt and the pulley; a broken belt; or either of the two pulleys coming loose or becoming bent (again by a foreign object, but this time hitting the pulley)

don't forget to take your ASE mechanics certification test as soon as you can. we need more good mechanics.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by bears9

What they mean when they say the Car "tightened up"

you'll hear two words tossed around that refer to the handling of the car: tight and loose. one is the opposite of the other.

tight: when you turn the steering wheel and the car doesn't turn (remember when Lightening McQueen in the movie "Cars" was trying to negotiate that turn on the dirt track and he turned the wheels to the left and the car kept going straight? that was a "tight")

loose: when the car turns more than you want it to, usually because the rear tires have lost traction and are sliding away from where you want to go (again, from the movie "Cars", remember when Doc Hudson was running around the same dirt track and threw the car into a sideways slide and had the wheels cranked all the way to the right? that was "loose")

so when someone says the car "tightened up" or "got loose", it means the handling changed so that the front tires lost grip or the rear tires lost grip, respectively.

pretty soon you guys are gonna be so smart, I can retire and let you answer the Ask The Experts questions

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by BringBackWilkesboro

Dale may have had fun, but I'm sure he looked like an a$$ to any of the previous generation drivers. They had to be sayin "look at that boy, can't drive them little cars for crap!"

Anyway, this has to be the most analysis on an engine faliure I've even heard/read. What happened to the good old days of busting a valve spring?

BBW, they're making valve springs so good now it's hard to bust 'em. plus they usually have at least two on each valve, so even if one gives up, there's another to keep things from getting nasty.

but you already knew that, didn't you?

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

now learn how to spell it: chassis. just remember "classy chassis" (both with double "s") but I'm proud of you no matter how you spell it.

VERY rare slip!

Now learn that a sentence begins with a capital letter. Shall we discuss your sentence structure? Punctuation? Hmmm? Hmmm?

You big bully!

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

tight: when you turn the steering wheel and the car doesn't turn (remember when Lightening McQueen in the movie "Cars" was trying to negotiate that turn on the dirt track and he turned the wheels to the left and the car kept going straight? that was a "tight")

loose: when the car turns more than you want it to, usually because the rear tires have lost traction and are sliding away from where you want to go (again, from the movie "Cars", remember when Doc Hudson was running around the same dirt track and threw the car into a sideways slide and had the wheels cranked all the way to the right? that was "loose")

I knew that! I knew that!


Also known as "pushing" and "loose" ... or ... when a car is pushing, the frontend hits the wall. When a car is loose, the backend hits the wall. Also, a car will get loose when another car comes up on the rear bumper and messes with the air. And if a car blows a front tire, that's really pushing/tight!

Wanna talk stagger now? That's all I know: loose, pushing, and stagger!
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Originally Posted by Racer Duck

pretty soon you guys are gonna be so smart, I can retire and let you answer the Ask The Experts questions

No chance Ducky .... no chance !!

[bears9]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

you'll hear two words tossed around that refer to the handling of the car: tight and loose. one is the opposite of the other.

tight: when you turn the steering wheel and the car doesn't turn (remember when Lightening McQueen in the movie "Cars" was trying to negotiate that turn on the dirt track and he turned the wheels to the left and the car kept going straight? that was a "tight")

loose: when the car turns more than you want it to, usually because the rear tires have lost traction and are sliding away from where you want to go (again, from the movie "Cars", remember when Doc Hudson was running around the same dirt track and threw the car into a sideways slide and had the wheels cranked all the way to the right? that was "loose")

so when someone says the car "tightened up" or "got loose", it means the handling changed so that the front tires lost grip or the rear tires lost grip, respectively.

pretty soon you guys are gonna be so smart, I can retire and let you answer the Ask The Experts questions

Thanks Duck

[simple simon]

ok, i have heard some of you throw this line around from time to time ...... so it got me to wondering

just what exactly distinguishes the "modern era" and when did it start ?