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Old 03-11-2008, 11:06 AM
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Too many Cup drivers in Nationwide Series

You used to be able to call them, Buschwackers, but not anymore.

What does everyone think of the complete invasion of Cup drivers to the Nationwide Series? I know it has always been an issue, but I think it's getting out of control. I know it helps ratings and gets more viewers, but to be honest, I would much rather watch a Nationwide race with no Cup drivers in the top 20 in Sprint Cup points.

They made the Nationwide series what it is for a reason. They made it for younger, developing drivers and developing teams. I just think it's getting out of control.
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:22 AM
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Re: Too many Cup drivers in Nationwide Series

Hello and welcome RB.I must say, this subject has been beaten to death around here,lol.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:21 PM
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Re: Too many Cup drivers in Nationwide Series

Welcome to the best Nascar forum ever. I don't even waste my time anymore watching Busch unless it's when they run at different tracks and it's not over run with cup drivers.
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Old 03-11-2008, 02:03 PM
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Re: Too many Cup drivers in Nationwide Series

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You used to be able to call them, Buschwackers, but not anymore.

What does everyone think of the complete invasion of Cup drivers to the Nationwide Series? I know it has always been an issue, but I think it's getting out of control. I know it helps ratings and gets more viewers, but to be honest, I would much rather watch a Nationwide race with no Cup drivers in the top 20 in Sprint Cup points.

They made the Nationwide series what it is for a reason. They made it for younger, developing drivers and developing teams. I just think it's getting out of control.
In short I mostly agree, nationwide should be for developmental drivers and those not quite good enough for the big show. That said I wouldn't mind seeing certain Cup drivers get a ride in the Nationwide Series, not big names, but fringe cup teams like those outside the top 35 or something to that effect.
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Old 03-11-2008, 03:30 PM
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Re: Too many Cup drivers in Nationwide Series

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They made the Nationwide series what it is for a reason. They made it for younger, developing drivers and developing teams. I just think it's getting out of control.

That role has pretty much been taken over by the truck series.

And we still see cup drivers run in those races too, from time to time.
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Old 03-11-2008, 03:38 PM
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Re: Too many Cup drivers in Nationwide Series

Being able to drive at any level of the sport whenever you want is what makes this sport great. If you wanna be the best, then you have to beat the best. Martin Truex Jr. is by no means the best driver in NASCAR. But when he won his 2 Busch titles he was beating cup drivers. That's how he got his cup ride. If the Busch drivers are complaining cause cup drivers are coming down and stealing the show then maybe those guys should get better. Keselowski finished 6th this week at Atlanta I think. He might have won if the cup drivers hadn't have been there, but isn't it better to finish 6th against the best rather then 1st against terrible busch drivers.


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Old 03-11-2008, 07:15 PM
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Re: Too many Cup drivers in Nationwide Series

The influx of Cup Raiders isn't the main problem. The problem I have with the drivers is that the drivers who go home because they were beaten out by a Cup Raider doesn't get a lot of necessary seat time.

The main problem, as I see it, is that most of the Cup drivers are driving for satellite teams of their parent team. (RCR, JGR, Roush, etc., etc.) or teams obstensively owned by a Cup driver utilizing the technology, experience and crews of his parent team (Harvick and Junior immediately come to mind).

They grab the major sponsors and the lion's share of the purse money.

My question is: Without smaller teams being successful in the lower series, when Roush, Hendrick, etc., etc., are gone, where will their replacements come from?

What NA__AR is guilty of, in allowing this to happen, is to show what in business is called a "Q1 Mentality." This translates to: Worry about the first quarter profits and the Hell with Quarters two, three and four until we're faced with it. A sure recipe for crisis management and uncertain future.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:01 PM
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Re: Too many Cup drivers in Nationwide Series

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My question is: Without smaller teams being successful in the lower series, when Roush, Hendrick, etc., etc., are gone, where will their replacements come from?

What NA__AR is guilty of, in allowing this to happen, is to show what in business is called a "Q1 Mentality." This translates to: Worry about the first quarter profits and the Hell with Quarters two, three and four until we're faced with it. A sure recipe for crisis management and uncertain future.
Well, the smaller teams right know are these "satellite organizations" like Harvick and JR Motorsports. Both get drivers like Tony Stewart and Mark Martin to compete in their cars. Roush and Ganassi has a big group of cars entered as well. I'm for a "restriction" on cup drivers (and maybe even teams) in the Nationwide Series. NASCAR likes big name drivers in the Nationwide Series because it sells tickets.

The Cup and Nationwide cars are so similar that maybe they should eliminate one of the series or at least take the Nationwide cars to different tracks. These three-day race week-ends at one track seems like an over kill. It may eventually hurt attendance at the truck series later on. I went to all 3 races at Daytona because it had been a few months since I had been to a NASCAR race and wanted to get up to date. TV ratings and attendance (going up or down) for the rest of the year will be a good bench mark as to NASCAR's direction.

So, if hey keep the pattern up.... there wont be any seats available to a new startup driver.
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