[PenelopePitStop]

Holy crap! What a Thread!

I really wish we could stop comparing "open-wheelers" to "non-open wheelers". To me, it just doesn't matter. I think many people use that comparison to strike conversation/debate. Doesn't cut it with me.

I like Tony. Don't care where he comes from. The other two former-open wheelers who I don't like has zero to do with their background. I just don't care. Show me what you got in Cup, or go back home. Same goes for Kerry Earnhardt. Followed him. Watched him. Wanted to like him. Couldn't drive to save his own life. I don't care what your name is or what you have accomplished prior to joining Cup. Drive like the wind, or get the heck out! If you think you are entitled by name or former accomplishments, I have no interest.

To me, Mark Martin is a champion. Whether or not he holds the Cup in his hands or not doesn't matter. Nothing anyone can say will ever change that.

Flash forward to the NW race. It wasn't his intention to wreck anyone. Even Edwards said, and I'm paraphrasing, "You just can't get mad at Mark Martin."

I guess I'm learning that I am in the minority of NASCAR fans. I learn to "respect" drivers before I become a "fan" of such drivers.

I can live with that.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Holy crap! What a Thread!

I really wish we could stop comparing "open-wheelers" to "non-open wheelers". To me, it just doesn't matter. I think many people use that comparison to strike conversation/debate. Doesn't cut it with me.

I like Tony. Don't care where he comes from. The other two former-open wheelers who I don't like has zero to do with their background. I just don't care. Show me what you got in Cup, or go back home. Same goes for Kerry Earnhardt. Followed him. Watched him. Wanted to like him. Couldn't drive to save his own life. I don't care what your name is or what you have accomplished prior to joining Cup. Drive like the wind, or get the heck out! If you think you are entitled by name or former accomplishments, I have no interest.

To me, Mark Martin is a champion. Whether or not he holds the Cup in his hands or not doesn't matter. Nothing anyone can say will ever change that.

Flash forward to the NW race. It wasn't his intention to wreck anyone. Even Edwards said, and I'm paraphrasing, "You just can't get mad at Mark Martin."

I guess I'm learning that I am in the minority of NASCAR fans. I learn to "respect" drivers before I become a "fan" of such drivers.

I can live with that.

Well spoken Penny. The Kerry Earnhardt example is a very good one in reference to name recognition issue. As Tom Cruise said in the Jerry Mcguire movie .... "Show me the money" .... or go home.

[OrionBen]

Originally Posted by bob101

Mark Martin wins today while employeed by DEI and driving for Hendrick...did I miss anybody else in on this deal?

After an Earnhardt driving for Hendrick. All national series name change withing 12 month,... is it surprising.... NA$CAR is a business

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

He screwed up in the race today but he was man enough to admit it and apologize. Just one of those "racin' deals."

Also the flipper is a Good guy, having been tony reaction my have been slightly different, but for from a Harvick-JPM discussion

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Simon

Want a prediction, IRT the "Open Wheeled Invasion?" Watch Patrick Carpentier. This guy is going to be as, or more, successful in Cup than Montoya. He's picked up the NA__AR racers faster any anyone I can remember. He was running great at Daytona in his Twin 150 before his tire let go. He qualified well yesterday and drove a whale of a race today in the Cup Lite race.

I do agree, and he looks like one of the boys

Qualified the cup car 12... great
Qualified the busch car without any practice in a busch car all season... good
Finish the busch (ok nationwide ) race in the top ... great.
Was driving in the wall by Newman in cup, but he could had lifted or break... rookie mistake.
To bad he's outside the top 35, that will kill his chance for ROY, but the other rookie are on the verge of being out of it in 2 races....